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1 Oct, 14:07 @EelcoVisser: RT shall we just stop?-) @zef: Awesome video about twitter :D youtube.com ※ @
- 15:32 @grammarware: @EelcoVisser @zef what do you mean by "stop"? You mean "sacrifice the non-believers to the fail whale", right? ※ @
15:19 @grammarware: twitpic.com - working with ASF+SDF Meta-Environment is always fun like no other things in this life ※ @
- 15:54 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware In graph-support/utils/layoutgraph/layout.c at line 320 remove "-y" as a workaround. Might be a bug in graphviz for macosx. ※ @
  - 16:31 @grammarware: @jurgenvinju I don’t have such a file. Perhaps a version problem? Re-installing the newest release right now just in case. ※ @
    - 16:32 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware, the source release, or the binary? ※ @
      - 16:36 @grammarware: @jurgenvinju asfsdf-meta-bundle-2.0.3_patched-precollected.tar.gz — I didn’t find the binary for Mac OS. ※ @
        16:50 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware that bundle should contain that file definitely. ※ @
        17:05 @grammarware: @jurgenvinju the file is there,found the option, edited it away. Now JJTraveler does not compile ;) I’m using Java 6 (soylatte), is that it? ※ @
        17:08 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware, I have no idea. Java 5 is supported for sure. Let's take this online at email. ※ @
        17:16 @grammarware: @jurgenvinju I also have Java 5, will try again with it and report — failure by email, success by Twitter! ※ @
    - 16:35 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware you can also edit the binary of "layoutgraph" ;-) ※ @
      - 17:15 @grammarware: @jurgenvinju no problem, I spent the best of my teenage years editing executable binaries ;) ※ @
        17:17 @jurgenvinju: @grammarware, just find the string containing "-y" and replace it by two spaces ;-) ※ @
        17:39 @frama_c: @jurgenvinju @grammarware, try not to think about the one in 65536 false positives. "Ostrich" should be your mantra. ※ @
15:46 @grammarware: Cool — people.mozilla.com — this animated PNG spins in Firefox & Opera but not in other browsers! ※ @
18:28 @grammarware: RT @laribee: What did we talk about before we had iPhones? ※ @
20:00 @meyerweb: I sometimes think that someone should try writing a novel via Twitter and then I remember: Ernest Hemingway. ※ @
- 20:06 @grammarware: @meyerweb there are people like @arjunbasu and others who try anyway. Also check out #vss ※ @
20:31 @scarych: Чтобы программировать на каком-либо языке нужно знать его синтаксис. Чтобы на нем писать - нужно чувствовать его дзэн. ※ @
- 20:51 @grammarware: @scarych в профессиональных кругах чаще используется термин «семантика». ※ @
  - 21:24 @scarych: @grammarware дзэн звучит красивее :-) ※ @
21:52 @dacort: Just saw a guy walking down the street with: a backpack on, a macbook tucked under his arm, keys clenched in mouth, and...a huge powerdrill. ※ @
- 21:56 @grammarware: @dacort it’s ok, he probably just robbed someone. ※ @
22:53 @notquiteabba: Time to get into #sle mode. planet-sl.org Does the tag work? I hate hotel-hosted confs; need to get out of my way for SLE. ※ @

2 Oct, 1:37 @grammarware: «Книга подобна белой линии на дороге в туманную ночь» © Эверетт Шостром, а также один из моих старых фидошных таглайнов ※ @
3:45 @grammarware: RT @agilenature: Have you ever been so pissed off that your started swinging a CACTUS? [PIC] imgur.com ※ @
3:57 @gappy3000: RT @grammarware: RT @agilenature: Have you ever been so pissed off that your started swinging a CACTUS? [PIC] imgur.com ※ @
21:44 @zef: Printing some #sle09 papers for on the way. ※ @
12:36 @grammarware: There are things that should never be underestimated [video] youtube.com ※ @
12:41 @elsvene: RT @grammarware: There are things that should never be underestimated [video] youtube.com ※ @
12:56 @Felienne: :D RT @grammarware There are things that should never be underestimated [video] youtube.com ※ @
13:39 @zef: To all SLE twitterers, a twitter search showed that #sle is too general and can also refer to a disease, please use #sle09. ※ @
- 13:46 @Felienne: @zef and how about #models? No good either, I suppose? :) ※ @
  - 13:57 @zef: @Felienne nope, #models09 please :) And pay attention to the lecture! ※ @
13:58 @notquiteabba: RT @zef: To all SLE twitterers, a twitter search showed that #sle is too general and can also refer to a disease, please use #sle09. ※ @
14:05 @zef: My PIL language now has a very basic website, which, yes, I know, is still very incomplete: strategoxt.org #sle09 ※ @
15:19 @grammarware: As usual for any new conference, you can follow #SLE09 at uni-koblenz.de (mine) or tweetview.net (@zef's). #i4cs ※ @
- 15:32 @zef: @grammarware #i4cs? ※ @
  - 15:36 @grammarware: @zef it’s our local department’s hashtag, don’t worry about it. Whatever is marked with it, gets retweeted to @institute4cs. ※ @
- 15:36 @zef: @grammarware ah, I see it, it's a hint for the @institute4cs account. ※ @
15:25 @institute4cs: RT @grammarware As usual for any new conference, you can follow #SLE09 at uni-koblenz.de (mine) or tweetview.net ( ... ※ @
15:40 @institute4cs: RT @zef @grammarware #i4cs? ※ @
17:05 @grammarware: #SLE09 related #FollowFriday: @dgasevic @GorelHedin @JeanMarieFavre @notquiteabba @EelcoVisser @JurgenVinju @PauloBorba @ststaab @inkytonik. ※ @
17:23 @softmodeling: hope to meet many of you at the #models09 #sle09 and #ocl09 conferences next week! Let's see if I recognize you in "real life" ※ @
17:28 @EelcoVisser: RT @softmodeling: hope to meet many of you at the #models09 #sle09 and #ocl09 conferences next week! Let's see if I recognize you IRL ※ @
17:32 @zef: RT @softmodeling: hope to meet many of you at the #models09 and #sle09 conferences next week! Let's see if I recognize you in "real life" ※ @
18:24 @softmodeling: it seems that many members of the very active Spanish community will be attending #models09 ※ @
18:53 @grammarware: Per aspera ad palus = через тернии в болото. ※ @
18:59 @grammarware: Jeff Healey’s “Let It All Go” is cool, yet hardly convincing. I rewinded back to listen to it 5 times before realising I need to let it go. ※ @
19:27 @softmodeling: I've not found recent pictures of myself online but take a look at this one modeling-languages.com to recognize me at #MoDELS09 ※ @
- 21:26 @EelcoVisser: @softmodeling I'll take some fresh pictures of you and the rest of the gang; packing my camera as we speak #GPCE09 #SLE09 #MoDELS09 ※ @
21:32 @SLE2009: The Grand Mesa room in the hotel is allocated for SLE 2009 for both days. ※ @
21:32 @SLE2009: Reception starts at 19:00 (not 20:00 - changed) on Monday. It is shared with GPCE and MODELS. ※ @
23:48 @dskolovos: packing for Denver #models09 #sle09 ※ @

3 Oct, 2:28 @followermonitor: @grammarware I've noticed that @PabloPerezLive stopped following you ※ @
5:41 @renggli: Zurich → Frankfurt → Denver → #SLE09 ※ @
8:54 @dgroenewegen: Flying to Denver today for #sle09, #models09 and #gpce09 conferences. ※ @
21:47 @roycePotestio11: @grammarware Hey Get 400 followers a day using followersquick.info. Its super fast! ※ @
10:38 @Felienne: On my way to Denver for #models09, #sle09 and #gpce09 ※ @
11:59 @grammarware: Went out yesterday, announced to my friends that I will speak German from that point on. They said I have Dutch, English & Russian accents! ※ @
- 12:18 @ashalynd: @grammarware all together???? I have to revive my German skills! ※ @
  - 12:26 @grammarware: @ashalynd yes, they were making fun of me for having all three together ;) Well, this is the method I tried with Dutch, and it got me far. ※ @
19:25 @SLE2009: Updated program is available planet-sl.org. Get familiar with the other authors - their photos are there too :-). ※ @
19:28 @SLE2009: Registration will be open from 8am on Monday, Oct 5. The keynote starts at 9am. Please, plan to come at lest 15' earlier to register. ※ @
21:21 @grammarware: На @leprosorium обнаружил у себя звание «ветеран лепры». Признавайтесь, кто меня так высоко ценит, а? ;) ※ @
22:21 @grammarware: Total ignorance FTW. RT @scr4t: RT @plebedev: imageshack.us ※ @

4 Oct, 2:46 @dgasevic: In Denver for SLE 2009. ※ @
- 7:45 @JBezivin: @dgasevic Nice meeting you this evening Dragan ( #sle09, #gpce09, #models09 ) ※ @
3:09 @notquiteabba: In Denver for #sle09; I am staying at Homestead Studio Suites; great concept in the US. ※ @
4:42 @renggli: Arrived in Denver for #sle09. Met @notquiteabba in Frankfurt, as well as two #models09 attendees in the plane and during baggage pickup. ※ @
5:37 @tvdstorm: Arrived in Denver for #sle09, #gpce09 and #models09. ※ @
7:39 @JBezivin: Also arrived for a week in Denver (#sle09, #gpce09, #models09). Quick and pleasant dinner with @notquiteabba and other nice people. ※ @
8:05 @notquiteabba: We all arrived at #sle09 / #models09 / #gpce09 and thought it is in Denver; well Denver is more than 1h by public transit. OMG ※ @
10:10 @grammarware: It’s so easy to impress newly met people with my English after they only hear me speaking horrible German. ※ @
12:07 @zef: It's 4am Denver time and I'm already completely awake. Welcome to the US. #gpce09 #sle09 ※ @
13:33 @DavidVanDijk: Excited about my new job as a lecturer which started this week. Everybody have fun at models09, i'm looking forward to the feeds. ※ @
15:16 @dskolovos: awake - since 4am - and ready for the MODSE presentation #models09 ※ @
16:40 @followermonitor: @grammarware I've noticed that @katebuckjr @jachy @scott_turner31 @standoutblogger @Debbas @GiveMeGrits stopped following you ※ @
18:00 @renggli: Exploring Denver downtown. Pretty busy place for a sunday morning. #sle09 ※ @
18:03 @grammarware: Just got back from two geocaching trips. Very entertaining, somewhat dangerous, tiring & full of adrenaline. Rhine’s environs are beautiful. ※ @
19:44 @cwende: Nearly finished slides for language composition talk at #sle09 in denver ※ @
21:44 @EelcoVisser: Got 'demo' by @cwende of LanGems language composition framework using roles to model language interface langems.cwende.de #GPCE09 #SLE09 ※ @
22:22 @zef: Although we have a number of aspect languages in #webdsl, I'm still not convinced that aspects are always a good idea. #gpce09 ※ @
- 22:28 @grammarware: @zef there are per se not a lot of things that are “always a good idea”, if any at all. Aspects have their niche, no more, no less. ※ @
  - 22:36 @zef: @grammarware of course, but I'm not sure if I like them on general. It decreases the transparency of code. #gpce09 ※ @
    - 22:38 @grammarware: @zef how do you define “trasparency of code”? Any method that structures it differently than de facto devt techniques, decreases it, right? ※ @
      - 22:40 @zef: @grammarware yes, so maybe should stick to explicit, local, non-magic code :) #gpce09 ※ @
        22:59 @grammarware: @zef maybe. Or, we can also try to find an alternative, explicit, intuitive representation for aspect-oriented code. Conceptually it’s good. ※ @
        23:05 @zef: @grammarware yeah, separation of concerns is good in general. We have to find better ways of achieving it. #gpce09 ※ @
22:31 @grammarware: Watched “There Will Be Blood”, nice movie. This world needs more films like this, more series like Deadwood, like Breaking Bad. Any advice? ※ @
- 5 Oct, 6:02 @rakingleaves: @grammarware If you haven't seen it, The Wire will blow your mind ※ @
22:34 @grammarware: I can say the same about B.B.King’s or T-Bone Walker’s music — RT @FunnyJoker: I’d enjoy Reggae more if the songs ended. ※ @
22:38 @zef: Challenge for upcoming speakers: limit your slides to pictures, tiny code fragments and upto 140 characters of text #gpce09 #sle09 #models09 ※ @

5 Oct, 0:46 @ashalynd: Spent lots of time trying to reduce information stream coming my way - no point in spreading thin. A tiresome activity, still in progress :) ※ @
- 3:24 @grammarware: @ashalynd TweetDeck can help sort it out in the twitter department ;) ※ @
1:19 @renggli: My Denver excursion of this morning in pictures: gallery.lukas-renggli.ch #denver #sle09 ※ @
1:32 @nicbet: Preparing #WCRE2009 slides ※ @
1:33 @inkytonik: Thanks all for the #gpce09, #sle09 and #models09 updates! (Special Denver area tip: plan a trip up to Boulder to see the Flatirons.) ※ @
3:13 @grammarware: RT @bemily_13: I have only created it because my teacher said that he would give one extra point to those who had twitter. ※ @
10:54 @grammarware: twitpic.com — Found Functions by @NikkiGraziano — nikkigraziano.com ※ @
11:08 @notquiteabba: Thanks for insights at the steering committee dinner of SLE and the after-meetings. I am tired now & hope to recover until #sle09 starts. ※ @
14:30 @zef: Concidering that I woke up at 5am this morning, I must be very excited for #sle09 to start today! What else could it be? ※ @
14:46 @EelcoVisser: Decided to work on another #WebDSL screencast after waking up at 4:30 #SLE09 ※ @
16:13 @andersonledo: This is a week to follow #models09, #gpce09 and #sle09. Although I cannot be in Denver, I'll follow it by twitter at least. :P ※ @
16:27 @guwac: Who builds a hair dryer with 30cms of cord? Registering for #sle09 now. ※ @
16:48 @zef: In the room, ready for the #gpce09 and #sle09 keynote! ※ @
16:54 @djspiewak: Getting ready for the keynote at #sle09. Absolutely *terrible* wireless coverage in the meeting rooms! ※ @
16:58 @djspiewak: My #sle09 tweets may be a bit spotty due to really bad network coverage both from the hotel and AT&T. Sorry! ※ @
17:06 @djspiewak: Cordy is talking about DSLs and generative languages. #sle09 ※ @
17:10 @djspiewak: Talking about successful transformative DSLs. Most of them seem to be used exclusively by their authors. #sle09 ※ @
17:11 @zef: Jim Cody: does it take a PhD to use language engineering tooling? #gpce09 #sle09 ※ @
17:14 @zef: Jim Cordy keynote #sle09 #gpce09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:14 @djspiewak: Overwhelming TXL code. Just not accessible to average Joe programmer. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:17 @tvdstorm: Jim Cordy's keynote #sle09/#gpce09: who's using transformational tools? The makers and their colleagues. Adoption issues of GTSE tools. ※ @
17:18 @djspiewak: Trying to solve adoption issues with practical tutorials. Breaks down because the user still has to decide applicable concepts. #sle09 ※ @
17:18 @notquiteabba: Jim Cordy's keynote at #sle09 and #gpce09 does a meta talk on trafo/generative technologies: adoption issues ※ @
17:19 @djspiewak: Transformative parsers can be non-terminating? That doesn't sound right. #sle09 ※ @
17:22 @djspiewak: Colm doesn't look like a rewriting language. Syntax is based on Python. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:24 @djspiewak: User's view is that transforming and generation is not the problem. The user's want to solve their domain-specific issue. #sle09 ※ @
17:24 @djspiewak: Colm and Rascal are easier to use, but they still don't solve the problem. They're still aiming at the whole problem domain. #sle09 ※ @
17:24 @notquiteabba: Cordy cont'd: in addition to notation and paradigm issues; current tech aren't adopted because they use general purpose trafo languages ※ @
17:25 @zef: Jim Cordy: Problem of today's language engineering tools is that they attempt to solve everything, to apply to everything. #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:25 @tvdstorm: Cordy at #sle09 #gpce09: #Colm and #Rascal to make transformation/generation tools more familiar and accessible.But aiming for generality... ※ @
17:30 @zef: Jim Cordy likes #webdsl, calls it beautiful and perfect. Yay :) #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:31 @djspiewak: The real problem: we're asking users to tranform their problems into our domain. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:32 @djspiewak: WebDSL is a good example of how we can solve the problem. But we can't just make DSLs for every GTE application. #sle09 ※ @
17:32 @tvdstorm: Jim Cordy asks for sets of "WebDSL"s (mutatis mutandis) in the domain of generational and tranformational tools. #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:34 @djspiewak: Why don't we sped our time transforming user-level DSLs into our languages *using* our languages. Use GTE to address adoption issues. #sle09 ※ @
17:39 @djspiewak: Examples MU* and HSML. #sle09 ※ @
17:39 @tvdstorm: Jim Cordy example Mu*: a family of languages for instantiating code templates based on a design model in Prolog (from 1992). #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:42 @djspiewak: More recent example of GTE DSL: RSL. #sle09 ※ @
17:43 @webdsl: RT @zef: Jim Cordy likes #webdsl, calls it beautiful and perfect. Yay :) #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:45 @djspiewak: #sle09 keynote speaker. twitpic.com ※ @
17:48 @djspiewak: The agenda: understand the user's point of view and design appropriate families of GTE DSLs. #sle09 ※ @
17:49 @webdsl: Jim Cordy everybody should try to build languages like me! #gpce09 #sle09 ※ @
17:53 @djspiewak: We should eat our own dogfood so that others don't have to. #sle09 ※ @
17:54 @zef: Eric van Wyk: we have to eat our own dogfood so you don't have to. #sle09 #gpce09 ※ @
17:59 @fhe: "It's in our interest to make them dependend on our dog food". Words of honesty at #gpce09 #sle09 keynote. ※ @
18:43 @EelcoVisser: I'm reading Cooper's "The Inmates are running the asylum"; useful lessons for software usability relevant for Cordy's talk #GPCE09 #SLE09 ※ @
18:45 @EelcoVisser: Not clear that the gap between meta and object levels that confuses users is avoidable in DSL engineering, MDE though #GPCE09 #SLE09 ※ @
18:48 @zef: Dragan is introducing the #sle09 conference. twitpic.com ※ @
18:52 @djspiewak: At the opening for #sle09. They're talking about the PC et al. ※ @
18:54 @djspiewak: Reception is at 19:00, *not* 20:00. #sle09 ※ @
- 22:47 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak is the reception of #sle09 shared with the #gpce09 reception? ※ @
  - 6 Oct, 0:08 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Yes it is. Do you have any idea where it is being held? ※ @
    - 0:21 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak I think the #gpce09 #sle09 reception is just outside the meeting rooms; maybe @SLE2009 can tell us ※ @
19:04 @djspiewak: The organizers are paid in T-Shirts. #sle09 ※ @
19:04 @djspiewak: Having a really hard time with AT&T's network. #sle09 ※ @
19:31 @EelcoVisser: "Quine in Stratego" a Stratego program that generates itself blog.eelcovisser.net (reminiscing about OOPSLA'04 at #gpce09 #sle09) ※ @
20:00 @EelcoVisser: "Integration of Data Validation and User Interface Concerns in #WebDSL" this afternoon at #sle09 blog.eelcovisser.net ※ @
20:04 @zef: Tijs van der Strom talks about migrating the use of an XML API by wrapping and emulating the old API. #sle09 ※ @
21:35 @guwac: Presented our #sle09 paper on the evolution of modelling languages in #gmf together with Markus. ※ @
22:10 @tvdstorm: Listening to "Composing Feature Models" talk by Mathieu Archer. Brings back memories... #sle09 ※ @
22:16 @tvdstorm: Correction on before-last-tweet: it's Mathieu *Acher*. #sle09 ※ @
22:35 @tvdstorm: Another walk down memory lane: mapping feature models to implementation models. Steffen Zschaler on VML* for variability management. #sle09. ※ @
23:58 @grammarware: A little hacking moment in the middle of text editing: disambiguated the SDF grammar for BNF, can now parse DMS grammars in MetaEnvironment. ※ @

6 Oct, 0:09 @djspiewak: @zef kindly gave me the username/password for the wifi here at the Hyatt, so I'm back to tweeting nonstop! #sle09 ※ @
0:10 @djspiewak: Anya Bagge is talking about Magnolia and compilation by transformation. #sle09 ※ @
0:13 @djspiewak: `where`-clauses let you evaluate code at compile-time in Magnolia. How does that not make compilation undecidable? #sle09 ※ @
0:17 @djspiewak: They plan to define formal semantics for Magnolia transformations. Given the `where`-clauses, I'm skeptical. #sle09 ※ @
0:19 @djspiewak: Ah! They might solve the `where`-clause issue by restricting their contents to be strongly normalizing. #sle09 ※ @
- 0:22 @ekabanov: @djspiewak Even if they wouldn't they could still have a formal semantics. E.g. Agda has a formal semantics. ※ @
  - 0:27 @djspiewak: @ekabanov I'll have to look at Agda. Never heard of it before. #sle09 ※ @
0:21 @tvdstorm: Anya Bagge presenting the latest cool stuff in Magnolia: strategic compiler plugging for language extension. #sle09 ※ @
0:21 @djspiewak: Jerónimo Irazábal is up to talk about Model Transformation Languages. #sle09 ※ @
0:22 @djspiewak: They want to define a formal approach to support definition of models and metamodels. #sle09 ※ @
0:24 @djspiewak: Metamodels as ADTs. Models transformations turn into graph manipulations. #sle09 ※ @
0:27 @djspiewak: Simplified RDB metamodel. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
0:32 @djspiewak: They have implemented metamodel ADTs in Java and defined an embedded language strongly based on ATL. #sle09 ※ @
0:33 @djspiewak: Metamodels are java packages; metaclasses are classes; metaattributes are annotated fields. #sle09 ※ @
0:38 @djspiewak: They've implemented some Eclipse-based tooling. Will be done in future work. #sle09 ※ @
0:39 @djspiewak: "This approach provides a practical way to formally define the semantics of complex model transformation languages" #sle09 ※ @
0:44 @djspiewak: The "Models as ADTs" talk ran a bit long. I wonder if we're going to get the schedule back on track. #sle09 ※ @
0:45 @djspiewak: Paul Laird is up to talk about Dynamic Evolution of DSLs. #sle09 ※ @
0:48 @djspiewak: Problem: how to allow rapid DSL change and how to allow these adaptations to take place dynamically. #sle09 ※ @
0:43 @tommyHerne806: @grammarware I got 400 followers using twittfollow.com Check it out! ※ @
1:17 @Felienne: Great talk by @djspiewak on language integrated SQL queries in Scala #SLE09 ※ @
- 1:22 @djspiewak: @Felienne Thanks! I wish I had a bit more time; I would have explained the syntactic combinators thing a little better. #sle09 ※ @
1:23 @tvdstorm: RT Felienne Great talk by @djspiewak on language integrated SQL queries in Scala #SLE09 ※ @
1:23 @djspiewak: Data Validation in a DSL for Web applications. A talk by Danny Groenewegen. #sle09 ※ @
1:30 @djspiewak: WebDSL looks very interesting. It also looks like it could be an internal DSL in Scala without any syntactic concessions. #sle09 ※ @
- 1:36 @psnively: @djspiewak Curious how it compares with impredicative.com ※ @
  - 1:41 @djspiewak: @psnively Seems to be a bit higher-level. webdsl.org #sle09 ※ @
1:40 @djspiewak: Very enjoyable talk on WebDSL validations. Looks like Wicket form validations with a really pretty syntax. #sle09 ※ @
1:42 @djspiewak: Current talk is about Ontological Metamodeling with Explicit Instantiation. #sle09 ※ @
1:55 @djspiewak: It's amazing how universal Eclipse is among modeling researchers. It's also amazing that everyone sticks with the default purple. #sle09 ※ @
2:02 @djspiewak: Main message of this talk: "Don't call yourself a stupid grammarware person". #sle09 ※ @
2:03 @zef: "I know I'm extremely smart, that's not the issue." -- @notquiteabba #sle09 ※ @
2:08 @djspiewak: @zef won the enviable SLE T-Shirt. I'll have to plan my heist very carefully... #sle09 ※ @
2:11 @zef: RT @djspiewak: @zef won the enviable SLE T-Shirt. I'll have to plan my heist very carefully... #sle09 ※ @
3:42 @grammarware: Thanks to @djspiewak for covering #sle09 in such detail, it feels like I’m reading my own twitflood ;) Keep it up & as interesting as now. ※ @
10:00 @grammarware: “Unless someone actually forces Apple to play by the rules, why should they?” techcrunch.com by @arrington ※ @
10:01 @robinwauters: RT @grammarware: “Unless someone actually forces Apple to play by the rules, why should they?” techcrunch.com by @arrington ※ @
12:36 @grammarware: If I don’t tweet at night in November, don’t be surpsided: just got a letter from the electricity provider that they are cutting me off soon ※ @
- 14:14 @idefixuni: @grammarware bill not payed? ※ @
  - 14:17 @grammarware: @idefixuni kinda. One auto-transaction didn’t go well, so I had to pay manually after that. Eventually they got tired of sending reminders… ※ @
    - 14:50 @idefixuni: @grammarware Oh, what a pitty .... Who has a candle for V.? ※ @
14:49 @DamienCassou: Search for people interested in hiking in Denver mountains on Wednesday #sle09 #gpce09 #models09 ※ @
16:58 @djspiewak: We're getting started with the second-day keynote. #sle09 ※ @
17:02 @djspiewak: If Model Driven Enginering is the solution, then what is the problem? #sle09 ※ @
17:02 @djspiewak: We have not seen the full application development of MDE. MDE may be the important item for CompSci in this century. #sle09 ※ @
- 17:39 @deanwampler: @djspiewak Gut feel: textual DSLs will be the only form of MDE that survives in the real world. ※ @
  - 17:42 @djspiewak: @deanwampler +1 But I suppose we'll have to see. I've never been keen on modeling in general, but other people are. #sle09 ※ @
17:06 @djspiewak: #sle09 keynote speaker twitpic.com ※ @
17:09 @djspiewak: People are using (in the real world) higher-order transformation in ATL. #sle09 ※ @
17:10 @djspiewak: Started with Smalltalk, but wanted more operations. The idea was to build a framework (sNets) in which we could def operations. #sle09 ※ @
17:15 @djspiewak: Representing the "cat on the mat" operation in sNets #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:17 @djspiewak: UML has helped us to take a very important step between '95 and '96. #sle09 ※ @
17:20 @djspiewak: It takes about 15 years to mature a technology (18 ± 3). If that is true, then MDE is well on its way with 5-10 years to see the end. #sle09 ※ @
17:22 @djspiewak: There are many types of modeling (mathematical, software, etc). In all of them, you have a system and the model represents that sys. #sle09 ※ @
17:23 @richpaige: Jean Bezivin talking about the Evolution of MDE #SLE09 ※ @
17:24 @richpaige: MDE for interoperability - this is exactly the direction that is being taken in system integration projects with the SSEI #SLE09 ※ @
17:25 @djspiewak: "You can't eat models." Good advice. #sle09 ※ @
17:25 @richpaige: Do not eat the plastic plates - good advice from Jean B. #SLE09 ※ @
17:26 @djspiewak: The point is that we can use decorated models to represent the system, but you won't find those artifacts actually in the system. #sle09 ※ @
- 17:32 @andreyplatov: @djspiewak why not? what about interpreted models (artifacts)? ※ @
  - 17:39 @djspiewak: @andreyplatov I'm not really sure, to be honest. I think he's trying to be extremely rigorous with his definitions. #sle09 ※ @
17:31 @richpaige: Another reminder to read Dragan Gasevic's book, which is on my shelf :-( #SLE09 ※ @
17:35 @djspiewak: Unification of the Java program with the Java grammar (a la XSD schemata). I'm not sure how possible that is. #sle09 ※ @
17:36 @djspiewak: Java just isn't declarative. I'm sure you could represent a Java grammar in Java (e.g. as a parser), but that seems like cheating. #sle09 ※ @
17:38 @djspiewak: An abstract model is a graph, and it precisely follows the formal definition. #sle09 ※ @
17:38 @tvdstorm: MDE vs language engineering: model vs AST, graph vs tree, class vs ADT, metamodel vs grammar, diagram vs text. #sle09 constructing bridges. ※ @
17:38 @djspiewak: In grammarware, a program is a tree, but it's very difficult to unify the definitions. In MDE, it's already been done. #sle09 ※ @
17:39 @richpaige: Jean Bezivin: a model of a model is not a metamodel. Punchline coming up (megamodels, anyone?) #SLE09 ※ @
17:41 @djspiewak: A model of a mode is not a metamodel. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
17:42 @djspiewak: Correction: "model of a model". #sle09 ※ @
17:43 @djspiewak: Model Driven Engineering inherits from grammar engineering and ontology engineering. #sle09 ※ @
17:47 @richpaige: Need to read Brian Cantwell-Smith's work. #SLE09 ※ @
17:47 @djspiewak: "Where is the model coming from?" Naive answer: Rational Rose. #sle09 ※ @
17:49 @djspiewak: MoDisco is a new Eclipse component. The name is short for "Model Discovery". #sle09 ※ @
17:50 @djspiewak: We are trying to automate; to try to understand the methodology. #sle09 ※ @
17:51 @djspiewak: At some point, models of the data will be much more important than models of the code. #sle09 ※ @
17:51 @richpaige: JeanB: the increasing importance of data models #SLE09 ※ @
17:52 @djspiewak: They extract the metamodel from Bugzilla and Mantis and are able to build a transformation for data from Bugzilla to Mantis. #sle09 ※ @
17:53 @djspiewak: We can also build transformations from other data sources, like Excel->Bugzilla, or Excel->Mantis. #sle09 ※ @
17:53 @richpaige: CESAR project for tool interoperability via metamodels #SLE09 ※ @
17:55 @martiell: [RT @djspiewak: A model of a model is not a metamodel. #sle09] And I'll be disappointed if it's not a model of a modern major general... ※ @
17:56 @djspiewak: RT @martiell: [RT: A model of a model is not a metamodel. #sle09] And I'll be disappointed if it's not a model of a modern major general... ※ @
17:59 @richpaige: Reminder of Robin Milner's notion of Towers of Models #SLE09 ※ @
17:59 @djspiewak: The "Towers of Models" grand challenge - Robin Milner. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:00 @djspiewak: #sle09 is building this area of tolerance and competition. ※ @
18:01 @djspiewak: #sle09 second-day keynote is finished. Time for questions. ※ @
18:05 @djspiewak: There are models you extract from systems, and models which allow you to *build* systems. #sle09 ※ @
18:09 @djspiewak: Questions on the second-day keynote. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:12 @djspiewak: #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:24 @zef: Upcoming session is the session of my talk. Don't miss it! ;-) #sle09 ※ @
- 18:33 @djspiewak: @zef I'm looking forward to it! #sle09 ※ @
18:34 @djspiewak: August is up to talk about Verifiable Parse Table Composition. Nice paper, btw! #sle09 ※ @
18:35 @djspiewak: August at #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:38 @djspiewak: Extensible languages as modular components, only assembled by the end-user. Extensions only distribute grammar fragments. #sle09 ※ @
18:39 @djspiewak: Recompilation is theoretically exponential-time, which is too time-consuming to perform at parse-time. #sle09 ※ @
18:39 @djspiewak: Idea: distribute pre-compiled parse tables which can then be composed. #sle09 ※ @
18:40 @djspiewak: This does require context-aware scanning. I should think that scanner-less would be an easier way to go. #sle09 ※ @
18:41 @djspiewak: A theoretical test for extensions which guarantees that each extension will compose correctly. #sle09 ※ @
18:42 @djspiewak: Formal expression of isComposable. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:43 @djspiewak: In order to do this composition, any production with a host non-term on the LHS must have FIRST={ µ }, where µ is not used elsewhere. #sle09 ※ @
18:45 @djspiewak: The test ensures that the parse tables for composed extensions are partitioned into distinct sections; one for host and each ext. #sle09 ※ @
18:49 @djspiewak: Parse table merging. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:50 @djspiewak: Problem: Scanners for marking terminals (µ) must be built at composition time. #sle09 ※ @
18:50 @djspiewak: Solution: Make a different scanner only for marking terminals and run it in parallel with the pre-built scanners (polynomial time). #sle09 ※ @
18:51 @djspiewak: Composed parse tables does impose some performance overhead (~2x) beyond composed grammars, but not too bad. #sle09 ※ @
18:53 @djspiewak: PEGs are closed under composition. This intuition is born out by parser combinators which are composable through virtual dispatch. #sle09 ※ @
18:55 @djspiewak: Are Packrat parsers closed under composition? Does anyone know? #sle09 ※ @
18:57 @djspiewak: Component-LR can't gracefully handle back-references to the host grammar. #sle09 ※ @
18:58 @djspiewak: Interesting: composed parse tables aren't that much larger than the tables for composed grammars. #sle09 ※ @
19:02 @djspiewak: Maartje is up to talk about Error Recovery. This is a very nice and imaginative concept; the paper is well-worth the read. #sle09 ※ @
19:02 @djspiewak: Main usage scenario for graceful error recovery is IDEs. For example, Eclipse can't crash the editor on malformed exprs. #sle09 ※ @
19:04 @djspiewak: Error recovery fail. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:05 @djspiewak: Traditional approach to error recovery is panic mode. Once we hit a problem, just skip tokens until we start working again. #sle09 ※ @
19:06 @djspiewak: Delete/insert works better, but it often misses the most natural place to correct the error. #sle09 ※ @
19:06 @djspiewak: Question from the audience: why don't you use indentation? That's exactly what the paper is about. #sle09 ※ @
19:07 @djspiewak: Main use of this new error recovery technique: SGLR (which previously lacked error recovery). #sle09 ※ @
19:08 @djspiewak: SGLR error recovery in Eclipse. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:09 @djspiewak: Extend the grammar with recover productions. Insert special chars, delete special chars and words. Derive recover rules from grammar. #sle09 ※ @
19:10 @djspiewak: It turns out that recover productions introduce ambiguities which recreate a search space of alternate parses. #sle09 ※ @
19:10 @djspiewak: The trick is to find the best alternative. #sle09 ※ @
19:11 @djspiewak: Parallel parsing and backtracking are options, but parallel is bad on large regions, and backtracking has an awful worst-case. #sle09 ※ @
19:12 @djspiewak: Backtracking is alright when the error can be recovered very near to its occurrence. #sle09 ※ @
19:16 @djspiewak: Backtracking recovery: too clever for its own good. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:16 @djspiewak: Solution in SLE paper restricts area of text that is inspected. #sle09 ※ @
19:17 @djspiewak: Impressive recovery on the missing paren case. #sle09 ※ @
19:17 @djspiewak: Inspiration was bridge parsing. Bridge parsing uses indentation to recover from scope errors. #sle09 ※ @
19:18 @djspiewak: Bridge parsing detects missing braces. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:19 @djspiewak: Two assumptions: we assume indentation conventions and there are some assumptions on the structure of the language. #sle09 ※ @
19:20 @djspiewak: First select candidate region, check if candidate contains error (then skip), otherwise repeat until error region is found. #sle09 ※ @
19:21 @djspiewak: Region selection. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:22 @djspiewak: The goal is to recover at the smallest region which contains the error. If that doesn't work, move to the parent region. #sle09 ※ @
19:24 @djspiewak: Solution: 1) select erroneous region; 2) try bridge parsing; 3) try fine grained repair; 4) skip region. #sle09 ※ @
19:27 @djspiewak: Recovery evaluation. Fine-grained + bridge parsing does best. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:29 @djspiewak: Region selection and bridge parsing are independent of parsing algorithm. The fine-grained repair is SGLR specific. #sle09 ※ @
19:29 @djspiewak: Permissive grammars project: strategoxt.org #sle09 ※ @
19:31 @djspiewak: Two errors in close proximity is handled by expanding the region to include both regions (fine-grained repair). #sle09 ※ @
19:32 @djspiewak: If there are a lot of errors in a big region, fine-grained repair might hit performance issues. #sle09 ※ @
19:36 @djspiewak: @zef is up to talk about a platform independent language for retargetable DSLs. #sle09 ※ @
19:37 @djspiewak: The concept deals with "compiled" DSLs, or external DSLs. #sle09 ※ @
19:38 @djspiewak: Compilers usually generate code for a particular platform (Java, .NET, PHP, etc). #sle09 ※ @
19:41 @djspiewak: Plug for (broken link), which apparently uses WebDSL. #sle09 ※ @
19:42 @djspiewak: ANTLR has many backends, but all of those backends have to be individually maintained. #sle09 ※ @
19:44 @djspiewak: Typical external DSL architecture. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:44 @djspiewak: This talk focuses only on the backend for DSLs. We want to extend this architecture for more general platforms. #sle09 ※ @
19:45 @djspiewak: The most obvious way to support multiple platforms is to just duplicate the transformation layer. #sle09 ※ @
19:46 @djspiewak: @zef I missed the link for TweetView. When you get a chance, could you repost here? #sle09 ※ @
- 19:56 @Felienne: @djspiewak Here it is: tweetview.net #sle09 But the tweets are mostly yours :) ※ @
- 20:12 @zef: @djspiewak tweetview.net ※ @
19:47 @notquiteabba: #sle09 is very intense; I can't even keep up with tweeting. Thanks to @zef and @richpaige and @jbezivin for doing a better job. ※ @
19:47 @djspiewak: The features you want in the developer platform are very different from the features you want in a language for code generation. #sle09 ※ @
19:49 @djspiewak: Instead of translating from DSL into each platform, why not translate into one platform and from there to the rest? #sle09 ※ @
19:49 @djspiewak: This turns out to be a problem. For example, the Java language conversion assistant of .NET infamy. #sle09 ※ @
19:51 @djspiewak: @zef claims JRuby isn't completely compatible with other versions. I'm guessing @headius would take issue with that. #sle09 ※ @
19:53 @djspiewak: Why not use an intermediate language and translate from there? #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
19:53 @djspiewak: Traditional ILs still work on the machine level (registers, etc). This isn't really acceptable for DSL builders. #sle09 ※ @
19:55 @djspiewak: PIL has a Java-like syntax. Odd that it would be so high-level. #sle09 ※ @
19:58 @richpaige: Prepping a Muppet-filled talk for FOSD #SLE09 ※ @
20:00 @djspiewak: PIL also defines wrappers for language-specific frameworks (servlets, ActiveRecord, etc). #sle09 ※ @
20:01 @djspiewak: PIL also has its own ORM, since wrapping doesn't work all the time (severe mismatch with ActiveRecord). #sle09 ※ @
20:08 @djspiewak: So, is PIL's ORM completely stand-alone, or does it still wrap platform-specific ORMs? #sle09 ※ @
20:09 @djspiewak: Elina Kalnina is now talking about Graphical Template Languages for Transformation Synthesis. #sle09 ※ @
20:19 @djspiewak: Another example of Eclipse being used in modeling research. It really is ubiquitous. #sle09 ※ @
20:21 @renggli: The first demo at SLE. I like presentations with running demos. #sle09 ※ @
20:25 @IanSkerrett: RT @djspiewak: Another example of Eclipse being used in modeling research. It really is ubiquitous. #sle09 << nice to hear ※ @
20:32 @grammarware: “Am I fired?” — “Fired? I only wish we were in the army, so I could have you shot. Twice.” © Blind Date (the 1987, not the 1996 one) #movies ※ @
21:24 @richpaige: Off to give a short talk at FOSD. #MODELS09 ※ @
21:49 @rusinsky: #sle09 Too bad I am moving, I must attend next year ※ @
22:03 @djspiewak: Lunch is done, we're back for the start of the modularity session. #sle09 ※ @
22:04 @djspiewak: It's really too bad, but I'm going to have to leave early (14:55), so I'm going to miss the end (including Haskell scripting). #sle09 ※ @
22:06 @richpaige: Just spoke about electronic health records at FOSD. Some interesting questions. #MODELS09 ※ @
22:09 @richpaige: Talk about empirical comparisons of program comprehension in FOSD. #MODELS09 ※ @
22:09 @djspiewak: Modular Language Engineering. Reduce complexity for language implementations, adaptation, integration, etc. #sle09 ※ @
22:23 @richpaige: Hardware-software product line engineering, fun stuff #MODELS09 ※ @
22:33 @djspiewak: Lukas Renggli to talk about language boxes for managing language change. #sle09 ※ @
22:34 @djspiewak: We're learning a little bit about Swiss culture and geo-culture. Different regions, different languages; all under the same law. #sle09 ※ @
22:39 @djspiewak: Demo: creating a Roman Numerals language extension for Smalltalk. #sle09 ※ @
22:39 @JBezivin: #MODELS09 Educational symposium : teaching UML less exciting than #SLE09 presentations ※ @
22:42 @djspiewak: I've seen demos of Squeak in the past, but the dynamic integration of the language never ceases to amaze me. #sle09 ※ @
22:42 @JBezivin: Jordi Cabot presenting the new MDE Diploma going to open in February 200 at Ecole des Mines de Nantes in France #SLE09 #MODELS09 ※ @
22:44 @zef: SmallTalk is cool. #sle09 ※ @
- 22:45 @grammarware: @zef ahahaha, it took #SLE09 to convince you of that? ※ @
  - 22:47 @zef: @grammarware no, but it gave more examples of its awesomeness :) #sle09 ※ @
22:44 @djspiewak: Why is Packrat parsing more or less deterministic than vanilla PEGs? #sle09 ※ @
22:47 @djspiewak: Compositional conflicts are handled elegantly by Packrat parsing. IMHO, Packrat/PEG is the absolute best way to compose languages. #sle09 ※ @
- 22:49 @psnively: @djspiewak You mean parsing, presumably. Composing semantics is another matter entirely... ※ @
  - 22:54 @djspiewak: @psnively Example. Semantic composition is much harder, though not quite as bad if you're using attribute grammars. #sle09 ※ @
22:48 @djspiewak: Smalltalk example. #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
22:49 @djspiewak: Oh here we go...I'm drooling over Smalltalk again. #sle09 ※ @
- 23:15 @michaelg: @djspiewak I don't know what I'd do without Smalltalk, it's the punchline to so many of my jokes. ※ @
  - 23:18 @djspiewak: @michaelg Heh. You wouldn't be laughing if you saw the same demo. Really wild stuff. #sle09 ※ @
22:50 @djspiewak: Wow. Just by defining the language extension for Smalltalk, we get Squeak tooling support (debug, highlighting) for free. #sle09 ※ @
22:50 @djspiewak: Cue spontaneous applause from audience. #sle09 ※ @
22:52 @djspiewak: Language Boxes demo is over. Too bad, it was really quite impressive! #sle09 ※ @
22:53 @djspiewak: Smalltalk looks a lot like Ioke. Absolute awesomeness would be Squeak-style tooling for that language. @olabini #sle09 ※ @
22:55 @tvdstorm: Language Boxes by Lukas Renggli et al.: scoped language extension with support for debugging, syntax highlighting etc. Cool stuff. #sle09 ※ @
22:56 @zef: I would say the language boxes talk by Lukas Renggli is the most impressive so far (to me). #sle09 ※ @
23:01 @richpaige: Good debate on language composition! #SLE09 ※ @
23:01 @tvdstorm: Totally agree: RT @zef I would say the language boxes talk by Lukas Renggli is the most impressive so far (to me). #sle09 ※ @
23:03 @djspiewak: I was immensely impressed with the Language Boxes demo. It's too bad we can't embed video in LaTeX for printing. #sle09 ※ @
23:05 @djspiewak: I nominate Lukas for an SLE T-Shirt just because his talk was the coolest. #sle09 ※ @
23:08 @djspiewak: My airport shuttle is late, and I'm missing the rest of #sle09. Not a happy combination. ※ @
23:09 @richpaige: Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. #SLE09 ※ @
- 23:14 @JBezivin: @richpaige Thanks Richard, I'm coming to coffee. #sle09 ※ @
23:13 @EelcoVisser: Language composition with PEGs is dynamic scoping for languages; parts of a language maybe shadowed without developer being aware #sle09 ※ @
- 23:16 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Only if the composed fragment happens to accept the *exact* same input as the shadowed bit. #sle09 ※ @
  - 23:19 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak if there is an overlap between the languages; doesn't need to be the entire language #sle09 ※ @
    - 23:22 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Well, it's more than an overlap. The *entire* parse would have to complete successfully along both paths. #sle09 ※ @
      - 23:25 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak yes, that is the definition of ambiguity #sle09 ※ @
        23:28 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Right, so what you're saying is that you don't like the fact that ambiguity must be predicted by the developer? #sle09 ※ @
        7 Oct, 0:09 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak Indeed; with PEGs ambiguities are not detected, neither statically nor dynamically #sle09 ※ @
        0:10 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Well, static detection of ambiguity is undecidable in general, but your point is well taken. #sle09 ※ @
        0:13 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak For subsets of CFG ambiguity is decidable, as in the Silver/Copper approach (i.e. LR) #sle09 ※ @
        0:14 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Hmm, that's true. I wonder if it would be possible to statically check PEGs in such a fashion. #sle09 ※ @
        23:29 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser The developer would have to understand the ambiguity anyway in order to resolve the parse forest. #sle09 ※ @
        7 Oct, 0:11 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak with SDF/SGLR an ambiguity produces a parse forest, i.e. notification of ambiguity + artifact that can be inspected #sle09 ※ @
        0:12 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Right. That works because SGLR is generalized. Most people are leery of generalized parsing though. #sle09 ※ @
        0:14 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak And we should take emotions into account because? #sle09 ※ @
        0:21 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser Well, if nobody uses the tool, then it doesn't really matter how safe it is. #sle09 ※ @
        1:36 @EelcoVisser: @djspiewak Agreed; but what can we do if ppl are just 'leery about generalized parsing' and not convinceable by technical arguments? #sle09 ※ @
        1:41 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser I think we have to find a way to make generalized parsing more palatable. #sle09 ※ @
        1:41 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser I think the two big issues are: flow is unintuitive ("worse" than standard LR) and parse forests are scary. #sle09 ※ @
        1:42 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser IMHO, the flow problem is neatly solved by GLL. As for the parse forests... Disambiguation filters might help there. #sle09 ※ @
    - 23:23 @djspiewak: @EelcoVisser PEGs will backtrack as soon as they hit a failure. That backtracking works even after a reduce. #sle09 ※ @
23:13 @JBezivin: ReMODD project presented by Betty Cheng at the educator symposium. #models #sle09 ※ @
23:23 @richpaige: Preparing for our talk on Domain-Specific Metamodelling in an hour. #SLE09 ※ @
23:26 @zef: RT @djspiewak: I nominate Lukas for an SLE T-Shirt just because his talk was the coolest. #sle09 ※ @
23:31 @djspiewak: I think that perhaps PEG *recognizers* are closed under composition, whereas parsers may produce different results. #sle09 ※ @

7 Oct, 0:06 @richpaige: Francois Terrier talking about multi-level modelling. #SLE09 ※ @
0:11 @djspiewak: To summarize: PEGs are very nice, but also extremely risky. They don't absolve the developer from thinking about ambiguity. #sle09 ※ @
0:13 @zef: Already got an offer to develop a SmallTalk back-end for #pil and a potential user who wants to use it for his dsl. #sle09 ※ @
- 0:14 @EelcoVisser: @zef There is also interest for a PHP back-end for PIL #pil #sle09 ※ @
0:14 @richpaige: Clock stuff that Francois is discussing seems related to time bands, e.g., paper Time bands in System Structure by Burns and Baxter #SLE09 ※ @
0:45 @FAISTECH: RT @fabfas Another example of Eclipse being used in modeling research. It really is ubiquitous. #sle09 << nice to hear ※ @
0:46 @richpaige: Domain specific metamodelling #SLE09 ※ @
0:57 @zef: Just registered strategoxt.org #pil #sle09 ※ @
0:57 @richpaige: Dimitris Kolovos: "Text is more sexy than pictures". Lots of agreement on that! #SLE09 ※ @
1:01 @JBezivin: RT @richpaige Dimitris Kolovos: "Text is more sexy than pictures". Lots of agreement on that! #SLE09 ※ @
1:02 @EelcoVisser: RT @richpaige: Dimitris Kolovos: "Text is more sexy than pictures". Lots of agreement on that! #SLE09 ※ @
1:09 @zef: RT @richpaige: Dimitris Kolovos: "Text is more sexy than pictures". Lots of agreement on that! #SLE09 ※ @
1:13 @EelcoVisser: Ralf Laemmel: "API coverage (usage) is often minimal" confirms our choice to replace Hibernate with minimal ORM subset #sle09 ※ @
1:16 @EelcoVisser: yUML generates cute diagrams, but fonts are hard to read when used on slides #sle09 (feedback for @tobinharris ) ※ @
1:29 @zef: .@notquiteabba did a good Uwe Jugel impression. #sle09 ※ @
1:33 @richpaige: Good presentation by Uwe Ralf Laemmel Jugel on generating smart wrapper libraries. #SLE09 ※ @
2:00 @tvdstorm: Won the final #sle09 T-shirt lottery. Had to answer the following quiz-question: who invented the term "grammar engineering". #lol ※ @
- 14 Oct, 14:13 @fbahr: @tvdstorm [Won the final #sle09 T-shirt lottery … quiz-question: Who invented the term "grammar engineering"?] #Answer? ※ @
  - 22 Oct, 21:19 @tvdstorm: @fbahr Winning #answer was @notquiteabba. But according to the man himself and @grammarware, natural language people used the term before. ※ @
    - 21:29 @fbahr: @tvdstorm That would have been my point … nevertheless, the 'winner' writes history ;-) ※ @
2:03 @AccountLottery: RT: Won the final #sle09 T-shirt lottery. Had to answer the following quiz-question: who invented the term ".. twitter.com ※ @
2:58 @fhe: #sle09 was really nice! Looking forward to (Oslo | Malaga | Eindhoven) in 2010 ;-) ※ @
3:53 @guwac: RT @fhe: #sle09 was really nice! Looking forward to (Oslo | Malaga | Eindhoven) in 2010 ;-) ※ @
5:19 @JBezivin: RT @guwac@fhe: #sle09 was really nice! Looking forward to (Oslo | Malaga | Eindhoven) in 2010 ;-). Thx to all. ※ @
6:15 @zef: #sle09 was great! Also very happy to have been selected as the best presentation. Sadly didn't get the shirt, because I already had one. ※ @
6:31 @richpaige: Found really good Italian food at Denver Tech Centre, celebrating a successful SLE'09. #SLE09 ※ @
11:28 @akuhn: The same for Java, iam.unibe.ch // RT @djspiewak: demo, creating a Roman Numerals language extension for Smalltalk. #sle09 ※ @
11:34 @akuhn: Congrats @renggli! // RT @tvdstorm @zef: I would say the language boxes talk by Lukas Renggli is the most impressive so far. #sle09 ※ @
14:18 @guwac: #sle09 is over. time to go back to Berlin. come on delta, bring me home. ※ @
14:25 @JBezivin: Introducing Steve Mellor at the #Models09 first session this morning. #SLE09 is now finished and was very successful. ※ @
14:29 @flipjibbet: Wishing I was at #Models09 Need to find some discretionary travel budget somewhere... ※ @
14:31 @JBezivin: #Models09 conference supposed to be in Denver, but they organized it at the "Hyatt Regency Tech Center" in the middle of nowhere #fail. ※ @
14:38 @zef: Want to give better presentations? Have a look at presentation zen, also buy the book, it's worth it: presentationzen.com #sle09 #models09 ※ @
14:40 @zef: RT @JBezivin: #Models09 conference supposed to be in Denver, but it's at the "Hyatt Regency Tech Center" in the middle of nowhere #fail. ※ @
14:40 @JBezivin: @SergeStinckwich Hope #SSRR'09 will be in real Denver and not at the "Hyatt Regency Tech Center" like #Models09 engr.du.edu ※ @
15:07 @dskolovos: RT @richpaige: Dimitris Kolovos: "Text is more sexy than pictures". Lots of agreement on that! #SLE09 <- not always eboi.deviantart.com ※ @
15:40 @dgroenewegen: #sle09 was a nice conference, WebDSL received positive attention. ※ @
15:44 @softmodeling: but I least I saw two coyotes! RT @JBezivin: #Models09 conference supposed to be in Denver, but they organized it in the middle of nowhere ※ @
16:03 @dgasevic: Thank you all for attending to #sle09 and make it such a nice experience for all of us. Looking forward to meeting you all next year :-)! ※ @
16:34 @grammarware: State of the art in automated image recognition, analysis & manipulation — quite impressive! gizmodo.com ※ @
16:37 @anyahelene: SLE was great; already looking forward to next year, hopefully in Malaga... #sle09 ※ @
16:41 @onsamyj: Какой Же Идиотизм Писать Все Слова Заголовка С Большой, Особенно На Английском: kotaku.com — заметно, что тут два имени собственных? ※ @
- 16:47 @grammarware: @onsamyj лишь немногие знают,что имеет Смысл писать с большой Буквы только Существительные. Это облегчает Разбор Предложения и его Понимание ※ @
  - 16:49 @onsamyj: @grammarware Я так и делаю, когда пишу по-английски, но но это же мы с тобой умные, а они нет. ※ @
  - 16:55 @onsamyj: @grammarware Но в русском всё же проще: «мишка» = медведь, а «Мишка» = @hozvo. ※ @
    - 17:19 @grammarware: @onsamyj зато как было бы легко определять части речи у слов вроде «печь», «светило», «вокзал» или «галантерея»! ※ @
      - 17:27 @onsamyj: @grammarware Да мне давно хочется все языки с нуля переписать :) ※ @
        17:40 @grammarware: @onsamyj 2 моих любимых статьи на эту тему: crossmyt.com homepages.cwi.nl ※ @
        17:54 @onsamyj: @grammarware Стока букав! Ты смерти моей хочешь, я давно понял. ※ @
        18:02 @grammarware: @onsamyj just take it easy, one at a time… ※ @
16:43 @ashalynd: Looks cool! RT @grammarware:State of the art in automated image recognition,analysis & manipulation -quite impressive! gizmodo.com ※ @
17:20 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: why are we here? The answer is 42. Or Modelling. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:20 @grammarware: Wonderful. RT @JohanDenHaan: Empirical research concludes: Using UML takes 15% longer than just coding metacase.com ※ @
- 17:35 @j_ham3: RT @grammarware Wonderful. RT @JohanDenHaan: Empirical research concludes: Using UML takes 15% longer than just coding metacase.com ※ @
17:20 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: provocative context slide: "Models don't work". This should be good! #MODELS09 ※ @
17:22 @richpaige: Mellor: MDD wil become commonplace in three years time (which he said in 1985 and every three years since :-) #MODELS09 ※ @
17:24 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: "Models are already everywhere." #MODELS09 ※ @
17:25 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: models must be executable. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:28 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: abstracting away from data is trivial and uninteresting. Abstracting away from control is more interesting. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:30 @richpaige: Steve Mellor going through innovator/early adopter curve, talking about making money from, e.g., modelling. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:31 @grammarware: Я умею варить кашу из макарон. #awesome #cooking #skills ※ @
17:31 @zef: S. Mellor is talking about software platform independence in #models09 keynote. Interesting idea, they should invent a language for that. ※ @
17:33 @JBezivin: according to Steve Mellor it is possible to negociate with a terrorist, but not with a methodologist #MODELS09 ※ @
17:36 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: George Bush Center for Intelligence as an oxymoron #MODELS09 ※ @
17:37 @richpaige: Engineering is a very creative act #MODELS09 ※ @
17:38 @zef: RT @richpaige: Steve Mellor: George Bush Center for Intelligence as an oxymoron #MODELS09 ※ @
17:38 @zef: RT @JBezivin: according to Steve Mellor it is possible to negociate with a terrorist, but not with a methodologist #MODELS09 ※ @
17:39 @richpaige: Steve Mellor: "I have Java, I don't have a problem." Of course, being ironic ;-) #MODELS09 ※ @
17:41 @richpaige: Mellor: complacency is a problem in software engineering. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:42 @richpaige: A 10% improvement in productivity isn't a good enough reason to change to models. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:43 @richpaige: Mellor: Standard complaint, "It's all very shiny but couldn't possibly work. Models are just sketches." #MODELS09 ※ @
17:45 @richpaige: Big hurdle: code good, models bad. Issue of execution (or lack of it) is key. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:47 @richpaige: Another problem: "just an example isn't good enough" - need something based on what the customer is building. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:49 @richpaige: Need to show examples that are EXCEEDINGLY close to what the customer is trying to do. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:51 @richpaige: Buck-passing: management thinks programmers won't accept modelling, and vice versa. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:53 @richpaige: Tools haven't always kept up with ambition/intention. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:56 @richpaige: The nice thing about standards is there's so many of them #MODELS09 ※ @
17:57 @richpaige: UML is not interchangeable. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:59 @JBezivin: The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from (Steve mellor) #MODELS09 ※ @
17:59 @richpaige: Are we really pay USD $10 for a gallon of gas in the UK? Ouch! #MODELS09 ※ @
18:00 @richpaige: Biggest selling UML tool is Visio. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:01 @richpaige: Spending money on modelling tools is hard - expectations are different. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:04 @richpaige: Laziness pays off now (Mellor) #MODELS09 ※ @
18:04 @JBezivin: Lazyness pays off now! (Steve Mellor MODELS09) ※ @
18:07 @richpaige: Social and people problems with modelling (low skills, abstraction difficulties, etc). #MODELS09 ※ @
18:08 @richpaige: We are deskilling the modelling activity. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:09 @richpaige: It's easy to write a little bit of software, difficult to build a system. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:12 @zef: Enjoying Stephen Mellor's keynote. Really miss the dry Irish sense of humor. #models09 ※ @
18:13 @richpaige: Inside every big program is a small program trying to get out (especially if you are using unskilled programmers). #MODELS09 ※ @
18:14 @JBezivin: steve's friend spends his evenings deleting classes from programs Models09 ※ @
18:16 @fhe: Inside every big program is a small program trying to get out. (S. Mellor at #models09 keynote) ※ @
18:16 @richpaige: Why models aren't more commonplace: we oscillate between fear and fashion. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:17 @richpaige: We need to make models fashionable to the people who spend money. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:20 @richpaige: 20 years ago we had 30 notations and methods; today we have one notation and no methods. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:21 @richpaige: Steve's very unhappy with the state of interchange at the moment; but there are attempts to improve this. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:23 @richpaige: Standards don't necessarily need to be formal - QVT less popular than Eclipse M2M. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:25 @richpaige: Standard action language for UML due in March 2010. Standards are getting there. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:27 @richpaige: We need more examples of good models. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:29 @leopoldomt: RT @grammarware: Wonderful. RT @JohanDenHaan: Empirical research concludes: Using UML takes 15% longer than just coding metacase.com ※ @
18:30 @richpaige: Please make modelling commonplace in three years (otherwise Steve might go surfing) #MODELS09 ※ @
18:31 @richpaige: There is a need for general purpose and domain specific languages. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:31 @richpaige: DSLs should make use of all the work on underlying execution engines. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:34 @richpaige: Jon Whittle asked why agile/SOA have been taken up, but not models. SteveM: we haven't made models cool, and there was resonance. #MODELS09 ※ @
19:24 @charoy: RT @JBezivin according to Steve Mellor it is possible to negociate with a terrorist, but not with a methodologist #MODELS09 ※ @
19:29 @dskolovos: RT @richpaige Mellor: MDD wil become commonplace in three years time (which he said in 1985 and every three years since :-) #MODELS09 ※ @
21:11 @fbahr: Really appreciate @richpaige's efforts to bring #MODELS09 modelsconference.org to the (twitter) masses … ※ @
21:36 @jgfanjul: RT @JBezivin: According to Steve Mellor it is possible to negociate with a terrorist, but not with a methodologist #MODELS09 ※ @
21:49 @avandeursen: @zef Congrats with your best presentation award for PIL! strategoxt.org #sle09 ※ @
22:00 @tvdstorm: Up next: formalization of model transformations. Let's see. #models09 ※ @
22:04 @tvdstorm: Modeling the witch, snowwhite, and a basket of apples. Poisoned apple as the interface. Jurack at #models09. ※ @
22:37 @nicbet: Traveling to Paris for #WCRE 2009 in Lille, France. ※ @
22:42 @dgasevic: @JBezivin: #Models09 conference supposed to be in Denver, but it's at the "Hyatt Regency Tech Center" in the middle of nowhere #fail. ※ @
23:01 @zef: It seems that the #sle09 audience is more Twitter aware than the #models09 audience. ※ @
23:03 @notquiteabba: Now that #sle09 is over, the steering committee is frantically busy with figuring out details for #sle10. Let's grow further! ※ @
23:07 @notquiteabba: I don't know what research 2.0 is, but I know what it isn't: confs based on hotel chains & in the nowhere. #sle10 will fix this. ※ @
23:19 @Felienne: Oops, should have been #models09 talk :) ※ @
23:35 @zef: Model people, text can be used as a means to model too! Visual is not the only option! #models09 ※ @
23:48 @cwende: RT @fhe Inside every big program is a small program trying to get out. (S. Mellor at #models09 keynote) ※ @

8 Oct, 0:10 @Felienne: RT @zef Model people, text can be used as a means to model too! Visual is not the only option! #models09 ※ @
- 0:35 @grammarware: @Felienne @zef neat trick! If the “model people” believe you, they will use textual representations and soon will be making grammars, yay! ※ @
0:12 @notquiteabba: yes, very nice #sle09 presentation (RT @JBezivin: twitpic.com) but I liked the one on language boxes more. ※ @
0:13 @zef: If you decide to use a template for your presentation, make sure you fill in its fields so that it doesn't say "document name" #models09 ※ @
0:23 @zef: Or CONFIDENTIAL for that matter. #meta #models09 ※ @
0:27 @EelcoVisser: RT @djspiewak: "We should make generalized parsing more palatable. " Yes, lets do that; lets discuss with higher bandwidth medium #sle09 ※ @
0:40 @tvdstorm: Cool code completion for diagrammatic languages. The case of business process models (by Mazanek and Minas). #models09 ※ @
0:42 @tvdstorm: But it's generic approach, also used for Nassi Schneiderman diagrams, message sequence charts, "alligator eggs" (visual λ calc). #models09 ※ @
0:50 @dskolovos: programming with pictures and modelling with text. who would have thought? #models09 #sle09 ※ @
0:53 @zef: Pretty impressive! RT @tvdstorm: Cool code completion for diagrammatic languages. (by Mazanek and Minas). #models09 ※ @
0:57 @EelcoVisser: Error recovery for business process models uses layout like our error recovery for textual languages #models09 ※ @
1:27 @cwende: RT @dskolovos programming with pictures and modelling with text. who would have thought? #models09 #sle09 ※ @
1:29 @JBezivin: twitpic.com - Discussing #SLE09 ※ @
3:55 @acherm: RT @dgasevic Thank you all for attending to #sle09 and make it such a nice experience for all of us. Looking forward to meeting you all next ※ @
5:34 @zef: Tomorrow at 11 in session 1b: @Felienne will present her user study of industrial DSL usage. Don't miss it! #models09 ※ @
7:31 @softmodeling: RT @dskolovos: programming with pictures and modelling with text. who would have thought? #models09 #sle09 ※ @
7:47 @avandeursen: Today, @Felienne will present our user study of the ACA.NET DSL developed by Avanade. st.ewi.tudelft.nl #models09 ※ @
8:03 @JBezivin: RT @fbahr : Really appreciate @richpaige 's efforts to bring #MODELS09 to the (twitter) masses … ※ @
8:05 @grammarware: @Felienne good luck with the forthcoming #models09 presentation. Give 'em hell! Oops, I meant to say “enjoy it”. ※ @
8:40 @grammarware: The sun is up, seems like a good time to finally get some sleep. ※ @
21:30 @delphinocons: RT @Felienne: RT @zef Model people, text can be used as a means to model too! Visual is not the only option! #models09 ※ @
13:06 @grammarware: I found out people have real trouble telling my expertise field from my webpage, perhaps I need to work on that. Publication list—too weird. ※ @
14:56 @zef: So many model management issues would be greatly reduced by using textual models: version control, merging etc. #models09 ※ @
15:20 @xtext: RT @zef: So many model mgmt issues would be greatly reduced by usng textual models: version control, merging etc. #models09 <-- we agree :-) ※ @
15:38 @zef: Writing portable DSLs is hot! stackoverflow.com #sle09 #models09 #pil ※ @
15:44 @zef: From Stephen Mellor's presentation yesterday, the Bush oxymoron: farm1.static.flickr.com #models09 ※ @
16:44 @grammarware: “Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share”. © guess whom? Bill Gates! lettersofnote.com (via @jzy) ※ @
17:01 @richpaige: Banquet tonight at the Denver Aquarium. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:03 @richpaige: This is the most regimented banquet planning ever. A wristband policy is in effect. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:06 @richpaige: MODELS proceedings now available on Springer Online #MODELS09 ※ @
17:09 @richpaige: Beginning of MDE: structured design. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:11 @richpaige: Recap of some of the history of structured design #MODELS09 ※ @
17:12 @richpaige: MDD has nothing to do with executability or code generation: it is all about models driving design, etc. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:13 @richpaige: The place/role of users and programmers has held back the adoption of MDE. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:16 @richpaige: Social context of use clashes with design of cockpit of A320. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:17 @richpaige: Larry Constantine "Idiotic design decision" - left handed joysticks in the pilot seat in A320. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:17 @richpaige: A product can be a success without being useful, but usefulness and usability really pay #MODELS09 ※ @
17:20 @richpaige: User-friendly: a term still used, except by professionals #MODELS09 ※ @
17:26 @richpaige: Larry talking about Excelerator CASE tool from 1986. Lots of compromises made in design of its UI. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:27 @richpaige: Models capture and organise understanding about a problem or possible solutions #MODELS09 ※ @
17:29 @richpaige: MDE processes provide an audit trail, as well as facilitation of tracing to requirements. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:29 @richpaige: First mention of usage-centred design. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:33 @richpaige: Larry claims partial responsibility for usability issues not being considered well in MDE. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:35 @richpaige: Larry talking about a review of classic SE books and discussion of users. Not much mention at all! #MODELS09 ※ @
17:35 @richpaige: Funny: 6 agile books mention users on 8 pages in total, with 2.5 index entries #MODELS09 ※ @
17:36 @richpaige: Models should be suited to the design task; are UML models well suited to interaction design? It can be used. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:36 @EelcoVisser: "Use models appropriate to the process" #models09 ※ @
17:38 @richpaige: Big clumsy complicated models tend to lead to big clumsy complicated things. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:38 @EelcoVisser: UML is not appropriate to the process of interaction design #models09 ※ @
17:39 @dskolovos: Larry Constantine: Big, clumsy and complicated models tend to lead to... big clumsy and complicated things #models09 ※ @
17:40 @richpaige: "Model-Driven Everything" #MODELS09 ※ @
17:41 @richpaige: Larry uses the forbidden term model-driven architecture using lower-case letters #MODELS09 ※ @
17:41 @richpaige: Now discussing generated UIs from models. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:43 @richpaige: Pederiva et al, from INTERACT 2007: beautification of MDE for user interfaces. Seems to be about picking widgets. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:48 @EelcoVisser: Larry Constantine: "Visual diagrams are write only documents" #models09 ※ @
17:49 @richpaige: Lots of discussion on agile usability now. Users are still an afterthought. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:49 @richpaige: User experience design is often misguided because user performance is what is truly important. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:49 @EelcoVisser: Interaction design is an afterthought in OO, agile software development #models09 ※ @
17:51 @richpaige: Larry showing "one of the two worst cellphones every designed". #MODELS09 ※ @
17:53 @richpaige: Everyone's fantasy: users who don't complain. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:55 @richpaige: The simpler your use case, the more useful it is. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:55 @richpaige: Key to good use cases: describe intentions, not interactions. Plug for essential use cases. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:56 @EelcoVisser: "Intentions not interaction" understand what users need to achieve with UI #models09 ※ @
17:58 @richpaige: For data modelling, you want models used by skilled data modellers; not necessarily the same people for process modelling. #MODELS09 ※ @
17:58 @EelcoVisser: "Interaction design requires different skills and different models than data and process modeling" #models09 ※ @
18:00 @richpaige: Need model driven inquiry, grounded in systematic models of human activity. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:04 @richpaige: Tools supporting flexible, seamless problem solving with all models interconnected. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:04 @richpaige: RT @richpaige We need models tailored to the needs of interaction design and designers. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:07 @richpaige: We need to integrate the virtual and physical worlds for modelling languages and tools #MODELS09 ※ @
18:07 @richpaige: UML falls short for human activity modelling #MODELS09 ※ @
18:08 @EelcoVisser: Business process models don't model how people do things #models09 ※ @
18:09 @richpaige: Dealing with the unpredictability of human activity is necessary in Human Activity Modelling #MODELS09 ※ @
18:09 @EelcoVisser: Human activity modeling: "business process modeling done right" Nuno Nunes #models09 ※ @
18:10 @richpaige: Plug for a Human Activity Modelling notation, small number of concepts, linked with UML. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:12 @richpaige: Mention of Canonical Abstract Prototypes for interaction design #MODELS09 ※ @
18:12 @richpaige: CAPs model content, function, layout and organisation. Based on abstract UI components. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:13 @EelcoVisser: Canonical Abstract Prototype (CAP): formal notation for wire frames that can be verified #models09 ※ @
18:14 @EelcoVisser: "Abstract UI components with standardized user-centered semantics" #models09 ※ @
18:15 @EelcoVisser: CAPs: formalized abstract wireframe schematics supports separation of concerns in UI design #models09 ※ @
18:17 @richpaige: Make use of models to capture, hold and organise understanding of problems and solutions. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:18 @EelcoVisser: "Models to capture, hold, and organize understanding of problems and solutions" #models09 ※ @
18:18 @richpaige: Focus more on user performance and human activity, and better tools to support this. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:18 @richpaige: UML needs notations for human activity and user interaction modelling. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:19 @richpaige: Use people for what people are good at: creativity, analysis, invention and design. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:21 @richpaige: Larry Constantine just wrapped up; now taking questions. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:22 @richpaige: Question asked about market forces to improve UML wrt supporting human activity etc. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:23 @richpaige: Jean-Marie mentions the cost of automatically generated UIs vs manually produced UIs. #MODELS09 ※ @
18:26 @richpaige: We've been paying for quick and dirty solutions for a long time #MODELS09 ※ @
18:29 @richpaige: Larry teaches his students to stick to the abstract as long as possible, when coming up with a solution #MODELS09 ※ @
18:44 @fhe: It's snowing at #models09 ※ @
18:53 @richpaige: Possibly I've twittered too much. Some of my tweets don't seem to be showing up! #MODELS09 ※ @
19:08 @tvdstorm: Empirical track at #models09: @Felienne opening: "having spent time in industry is like having been hospitalized in a mental institution";-) ※ @
19:11 @tvdstorm: #models09: @felienne trying to validate common preconceptions about the success of MDE and DSLs by empirically investigating all *-ilities. ※ @
19:46 @dskolovos: I would probably understand as much if the presentation was given in Klingon #models09 ※ @
20:16 @tvdstorm: T. Walter on using ontologies for describing DSLs ~ TBox = "grammar", ABox = "model". Description logic for constraint checking. #models09 ※ @
20:33 @marcevers: RT @EelcoVisser: Business process models don't model how people do things #models09 ※ @
20:58 @fhe: Interesting alternative program at Hyatt Tech Center ;-) #models09 twitpic.com ※ @
21:01 @peterfriese: RT @EelcoVisser: Larry Constantine: "Visual diagrams are write only documents" #models09 ※ @
21:27 @einvalentin: RT @EelcoVisser "Abstract UI components with standardized user-centered semantics" #models09 ※ @
21:31 @Felienne: Interesting indeed! :) RT @fhe Interesting alternative program at Hyatt Tech Center ;-) #models09 twitpic.com ※ @
21:43 @JBezivin: RT @zef: From Stephen Mellor's presentation yesterday, the #Bush oxymoron: farm1.static.flickr.com #models09 ※ @
21:52 @zef: That's the better type of conference! RT @fhe: Interesting alternative program at Hyatt Tech Center ;-) #models09 twitpic.com ※ @
22:05 @richpaige: Session 5a: current model weavers don't support unweaving #MODELS09 ※ @
22:11 @richpaige: 5a: unweaving through examples. Straightforward in the case of independent aspects. #MODELS09 ※ @
22:35 @richpaige: 5a: Jon Oldevik talking about contracts for model composition to help reduce inconsistencies in composition. #MODELS09 ※ @
22:42 @richpaige: 5a: Jon is describing the contract composition process, which includes pre-checks. #MODELS09 ※ @
22:45 @richpaige: Coffee at breaks == brown crayons in hot water. Food/snacks are otherwise good. #MODELS09 ※ @
23:03 @richpaige: 5a: Jendrik talking about our work on abstract domain-specific languages, building new DSLs from old. #MODELS09 ※ @
23:14 @richpaige: 5a: Andres Yie talking about an approach for evolving transformation chains. #MODELS09 ※ @
23:16 @richpaige: I've now seen 5 short papers at MoDELS'09 and still don't know why they weren't accepted as full papers. #MODELS09 ※ @

9 Oct, 0:00 @richpaige: Panel session: Real programmers don't model! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:03 @richpaige: Questions asked whether people who built modelling tools actually used modelling. A small proportion of audience! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:04 @richpaige: Why do many companies think modeling is sketching? Why do students with modelling experience have difficulty getting jobs? Myth??? #MODELS09 ※ @
0:05 @richpaige: Why is MoDELS/UML not as big as JavaONE? #MODELS09 ※ @
0:06 @richpaige: Very few people at MoDELS'09 come from "real industry", whatever that means #MODELS09 ※ @
0:09 @richpaige: Management will perceive change as risk. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:09 @richpaige: Need to show a cost-benefit analysis to support the use/adoption of MDE. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:12 @richpaige: Programmers tend to perceive software problems as requiring programming solutions. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:13 @fhe: Riding the myths at "Real programmers don't model!" #models09 panel. ※ @
0:13 @richpaige: Apparently, academia must provide training to prepare people to enter workforce. Training != Education! Argh! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:16 @richpaige: Weigert: another claim there is so little modeling in industrial software production. Where's the evidence of this? #MODELS09 ※ @
0:17 @richpaige: Weigert: says he wasn't very successful getting modelling tools adopted at Motorola. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:20 @richpaige: Weigert: view that modelling leads to "coding twice". #MODELS09 ※ @
0:21 @richpaige: Weigert: current tools are inadequate, and most people model by expressing C++ in pictures. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:22 @richpaige: Chaudron: 54K profiles at LinkedIn have UML in their profile; 329K profiles have Java. UML beat SOA! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:22 @tvdstorm: Weigert in panel "Real programmers don't model". One of the reasons for low adoption in industry: it's "C++ in pictures". #models09 ※ @
0:23 @richpaige: Job descriptions: 876 at Monsterboard refer to UML, 730 to model-driven development. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:26 @richpaige: Creators of a system hardly ever feel the pain of maintenance costs (creators pay for modelling, maintainers benefit) #MODELS09 ※ @
0:27 @richpaige: Projects can succeed without modelling; programming and modelling aren't opposites, both support abstraction. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:29 @richpaige: Gregor calls the panelists on being so negative about modelling: lots of people are doing it! Go Gregor. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:31 @richpaige: Lionel Briand sees a disconnect between the modelling research community and what practitioners need. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:32 @richpaige: Lots of people claim to be doing industrial-related modelling research. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:35 @richpaige: Model debugging sounds important. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:35 @richpaige: Do tool vendors have any incentive to produce better tools? #MODELS09 ※ @
0:37 @tvdstorm: One of the problems for MDE adoption is lack of highlevel (domain specific) debugging tools. Attendee X at #models09 panel. ※ @
0:38 @richpaige: Is there really much difference between what the programming community is doing and the modelling community is doing? #MODELS09 ※ @
0:42 @richpaige: Bob Binder: most apps built using MDE are enterprise architectures or SOA-based. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:44 @richpaige: Shubert doesn't advocate modelling device drivers. Loads of work in the model checking community on that! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:47 @richpaige: Several mentions of Matlab/Simulink/Stateflow - real engineers model, but maybe Computer Scientists don't (Andy Schuerr). #MODELS09 ※ @
0:50 @richpaige: Chaudron: no, UML really is being used, and people are buying tools. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:51 @richpaige: When will we have courses like MDE1, MDE2, MDE3, MDE4? Facetious answer: 3 years (cf. Steve Mellor) #MODELS09 ※ @
0:53 @richpaige: Question about how many modelling courses are taught in individual institutions. Average around 2. #MODELS09 ※ @
0:57 @richpaige: Claim that no UML books say you have to tailor/profile UML before using it. I think that's probably incorrect, e.g., all UP books #MODELS09 ※ @
0:57 @richpaige: I am now out of battery! Apologies for no more twitters!!! #MODELS09 ※ @
0:58 @tvdstorm: Weigert: plain/generic UML cannot be used for anything. You have to profile it for your goals. But nobody tells you this... #models09 ※ @
1:15 @fhe: Panel discussion vs. Panel conversation. (I'd would have prefered the former) #models09 ※ @
1:38 @JBezivin: RT @Felienne @fhe : Interesting alternative program at Hyatt Tech Center ;-) #models09 twitpic.com ※ @
1:51 @JBezivin: RT @dvillarraga Any body knows how to build a #multilanguage #website ??? #xml ? #xslt? #php? ※ @
- 1:56 @grammarware: @JBezivin all RIAs (rich internet applications, a better term than a “website”) are by definition multilanguage: at least HTML + CSS + JS +… ※ @
  - 6:56 @JBezivin: @grammarware Agree of course ※ @
    - 11:57 @grammarware: @JBezivin in fact, it’s probably even impossible to make _one_ 4GL on top of them. Unless it’s pure data manipulation — then it can be XML. ※ @
1:52 @grammarware: Oli Brown seems to be more famous than I thought — a Russian friend who “doesn't keep up with new CDs” knew him from a concert he saw on TV. ※ @
1:54 @grammarware: On the other hand, “I don't keep up with new CDs” was an answer to my expressed delight about Sylvester Weaver (recorded 1923–1927). *New*?? ※ @
2:07 @grammarware: Got mail from the head customs office that I need to pick up a package with printed out orders. Too bad they didn’t mention whom it is from. ※ @
7:35 @richpaige: End of MoDELS/UML'09 for me -- off to Toronto in the morning. Look for tweets from @dskolovos and @JBezivin. See you next time! #MODELS09 ※ @
7:41 @JBezivin: End of SLE/MODELS -- off to Atlanta in the morning. Look for tweets from @dskolovos :). See you next time! #MODELS09 ※ @
7:58 @dskolovos: @JBezivin @richpaige so be it then :) #models09 ※ @
10:34 @Grimenny: А вот еще вопрос: вы когда к незнакомым обращаетесь, говорите "извините" или "простите"? Или как вообще? ※ @
- 12:28 @grammarware: @Grimenny говорю “entschuldigen Sie!” ;) А вообще последнее время перешёл на «привет! у меня есть вопрос». У девочек лучше на такое реакция. ※ @
  - 12:36 @Grimenny: @grammarware А к людям в возрасте? ※ @
    - 12:43 @grammarware: @Grimenny тогда, конечно, по всей форме: «добрый день, извините, не подскажете ли, как пройти/где находится/кто я/зачем эта жизнь/…» ※ @
10:37 @grivedko: Есть тут кто живет в москве и в 30 лет не имеет машины и ездит на маршрутке? Нахуя тада жить? Как можно так себя не любить? Вы задрали! ※ @
- 10:39 @kirillsmile: @grivedko есть, есть. мне на машине до РАБоты часа эдак 3. с митино на профсоюзку. На метро - 40 минут. Возражения? ※ @
  - 10:44 @grivedko: @kirillsmile Одно дело, када вынуждено так из-за времени. Другое дело, када просто не можешь купить. Или не хочешь потому, что "экономный". ※ @
    - 10:45 @kirillsmile: @grivedko ну вот видишь, возникают ВАРИАНТЫ. а ты как бы в своем твите всех без разбора мудаками посчитал. неправ, согласись? ※ @
      - 10:46 @grivedko: @kirillsmile Машину иметь мужику нужно! Не важно где ты живешь! Ездить на работу каждый день и иметь машину - это разные вещи! ※ @
        10:48 @kirillsmile: @grivedko ты излишне категоричен мой друк. мерянье жизни машинами - это от недостатка фантазии. ※ @
        10:54 @grivedko: @kirillsmile И так можно брать еще кучу аспектов жизни! Просто реально, я не представляю, как можно без машины и сколько упускать изза этого ※ @
        11:03 @kapolya: @grivedko и еще вопрос. что я упускаю в своей никчемной жизни не имея тачки? ※ @
        11:07 @grivedko: @kapolya А ты не сравнивай девушек и парней. Девушка вышла на дорогу, подняла руку и ее везут бесплатно куда угодно. Или другу позвонила! ※ @
        11:11 @kapolya: @grivedko я задаю "бесполые" вопросы тебе, просто как бы интересно услышать аргументы на всю эту хуйню ※ @
        11:15 @grivedko: @kapolya безполых вопросов не бывает в нашем гендерном обществе. Аргументов нет, ибо это просто пиздеж ради пиздежа. А вы блять набросились! ※ @
        11:15 @kirillsmile: @grivedko таки в кредит или нет? отвечай, водитель! ※ @
        11:19 @grivedko: @kirillsmile Opel Astra 140 лошадок ;) В ненапряжный кредит с 60% началом, ибо это нормальная практика покупки так крупных вещей в мире =) ※ @
        11:25 @kirillsmile: @grivedko опель самая говняная европейская марка после французов=) ※ @
        11:43 @grivedko: @kirillsmile Не буду защищать Опель, но для своих денег аналогу ему просто нет по качеству отделки, ТТХ и внешнему виду)) Хотя эт холивар! ※ @
        11:44 @kirillsmile: @grivedko опель. в кредит. чувак, тебе точно есть чем гордиться. я тебе даже немного завидую. ※ @
        11:49 @grivedko: @kirillsmile Мне есть чем другим гордиться. У тебя комплексы, если ты мои посты воспринимаешь как хвастовство. Сори! не интересно больше ※ @
        11:52 @kapolya: @grivedko руку и письку даю на отсечение что твои посты никто не воспринимает как хвастовство. Если б ты про ягуар рассказывал... ※ @
        11:54 @grivedko: @kapolya А мне и 30 нет! Я просто всегда считал, что 30 это оч показательный возраст! Если до этого не приуспел - дальше почти невозможно! ※ @
        11:56 @kapolya: @grivedko вот я и хотела спросить что эта за тема про 30?? Новый стандарт? я щитаюящитаю. я щитаю что в 30 у мужика жизнь только начинается ※ @
        12:12 @grammarware: @kapolya видимо, по мнению некоторых в 30 завершается «первоначальное накопление капитала» ;) Потом можно уже и жить начинать. Опель нафига? ※ @
        12:08 @grammarware: @grivedko “в 12 лет это нормально” ;) Стукнет 30, будешь думать, что жизнь в 40 заканчивается или в 45, и так далее. Даже в 70 забоишься 100 ※ @
11:53 @kirillsmile: старый добрый хабра упс тви-срач. это так мило. так по олдскульному. ※ @
- 12:04 @grammarware: @kirillsmile @grivedko @kapolya читаю я вас и радуюсь, что в европах в 30 всё ещё можно ездить на велосипеде &такси &оставаться неженатым ;) ※ @
  - 12:07 @grivedko: @grammarware Это ваще мечта. Просто вот в таком климате как у нас на велике только 3-4 месяца в году. Это прекрасно и оч удобно. На работу. ※ @
    - 12:09 @grammarware: @grivedko ну дык, я в Амстердаме на работу каждый день через весь город ездил — красота. Снега там почти не бывало, вот дождь часто очень. ※ @
      - 12:12 @grivedko: @grammarware Дождь в Амстере это прелестно. Даже на велике. А у нас в дождь попробуй проехаться хотя бы километров 8-10. Покроешься бензином ※ @
        12:29 @grammarware: @grivedko дык там хоть погода и плохая, но дороги хорошие. И для велосипедистов дорожки или размечены, или вообще отдельно проложены — рай! ※ @
        12:31 @kapolya: @grammarware я хочу там жить. где то? ※ @
        12:36 @grammarware: @kapolya в твите речь шла про Амстердам, но вообще практически по всей Голландии так. Я там пять лет прожил, катался каждый день до упаду. ※ @
12:10 @grammarware: Кстати, есть один знакомый: в 40 лет решил из художника стать математиком. Сейчас 50, защитился, глава проекта, читает лекции и т.п. Успех? ※ @
- 12:12 @ashalynd: @grammarware Просто нормальный образ жизни. Человек не должен быть приговорен к одному-единственному роду деятельности :) ※ @
  - 12:26 @grammarware: @ashalynd дык. И не должен быть скован временными рамками (30 лет, 40 лет…). Это мы с @grivedko, @kapolya, @evgvolnov и @kirillsmile спорим. ※ @
    - 12:39 @ashalynd: @grammarware "В 40 лет жизнь только начинается!" (С)Москва слезам не верит ※ @
      - 12:44 @grammarware: @ashalynd человеку Х лет свойственно верить, что в (Х-1) год жизнь только начинается, и что (Х+1) — это важный порог, за которым ничего нет. ※ @
        12:47 @ashalynd: @grammarware по-моему, с возрастом это проходит. ※ @
    - 12:46 @kirillsmile: @grammarware ребят, я бы может и рад поспорить, но я чета несколько выпал из темы. ※ @
- 12:18 @Grimenny: @grammarware Это доказывает, что в 40 жизнь только начинается. ※ @
12:24 @grammarware: RT @cramforce: Neat JS hack: Need a string of n characters c? Array(n).join(c); e.g. Array(100).join("+") returns 100 plusses. (@tlrobinson) ※ @
12:30 @grammarware: I see no more userpics in TweetDeck. Am I the only one? #bug ※ @
- 12:47 @ashalynd: @grammarware use Seesmic :) ※ @
  - 13:28 @grammarware: @ashalynd ok, now I don’t see them even from the web interface. Am I going blind? Woo-ha! ※ @
    - 13:39 @ashalynd: @grammarware Seesmic has a non-web client (I am using it right now and very happy with it). ※ @
13:15 @grivedko: С удовольствием добавил @defeed @grammarware @evgvolnov @za_lubov - все правильно пишут! А не просто отвечают всем. #ru_ff #ff_ru ※ @
13:35 @grammarware: It’s going to hit the Moon any second now! If you’re not watching, you should: nasa.gov ※ @
13:45 @grammarware: I liked how the flight director quickly packed his bag and ran out of the room. Everyone applauded, nobody congratulated him personally. ※ @
14:39 @grammarware: When I see photos like these, I start regretting not becoming an entomologist again. acidcow.com ※ @
14:43 @ashalynd: aliens near us:) RT @grammarware:When I see photos like these,I start regretting not becoming an entomologist again. acidcow.com ※ @
14:43 @grammarware: After watching a movie yesterday I finally got a joke I heard in August 1999. Who said I’m slow? Well, perhaps I am, but I have persistence. ※ @
14:46 @atownley: Wow! RT @ashalynd: RT @grammarware:When I see photos like these,I regret not becoming an entomologist again. acidcow.com ※ @
15:37 @hangingnoodles: Blown up bugs (non explosive enlarged entomology) photos- aliens amongst is acidcow.com via @ashalynd @grammarware ※ @
15:56 @grammarware: Looks like Microsoft Academic Days are back, cool! academic-days.de @notquiteabba & yours truly gave the last talk at 4th MSRAD. ※ @
15:57 @Eugenia_Kim: Holy Hairy Follicle! RT Blown-up bugs (un-exploded enlarged entomology) Via @ashalynd @grammarware @hangingnoodle acidcow.com Amazing ※ @
17:17 @dskolovos: Grady Booch's keynote started - via FirstLife this time #models09 ※ @
17:25 @dskolovos: Grady Booch: UML never intended to be a programming language. We've lost our way #models09 ※ @
17:27 @cwende: RT @dskolovos: Grady Booch: UML never intended to be a programming language. We've lost our way #models09 ※ @
17:33 @dskolovos: Grady Booch: Modelling: Abstractions with freedom but without ambiguity #models09 ※ @
17:55 @tvdstorm: In a keynote by Grady Booch: relating modeling and visualization. #models09 ※ @
18:00 @dskolovos: Grady Booch: The code is the truth, but not the only truth #models09 ※ @
18:20 @mariocarrion: I officially suck, I didn't know about modelsconference.org #models09 ※ @
19:16 @Schwarzenegger: twitpic.com - This is how I start my day. ※ @
20:10 @JBezivin: #MODELS09: 2010 OSLO (Norway), 2011 Auckland (New Zealand), 2012 Innsbruck (Austria), 2013 San Diego (USA) ※ @
20:13 @fhe: #models09, #gpce09 and #sle09 triple-conference was great! Heading home now. ※ @
20:21 @EelcoVisser: #models09, #gpce09 and #sle09 are over and my next #WebDSL screencast is done; just out of time for rendering and uploading it ※ @
20:26 @JBezivin: Next great meeting in #MALAGA for #Tools2010 federated conferences in June 2010 including #ICMT2010. (#Models09 #SLE09 #GPCE09) ※ @
21:52 @zef: Free wifi on Denver airport, awesome! #models09 ※ @
22:34 @notquiteabba: Many years ago Dr. House looked and played like this: youtube.com ※ @
- 10 Oct, 7:09 @grammarware: @notquiteabba he is a talented man, he was actually even seen doing language convergence youtube.com ※ @
22:42 @JBezivin: #FollowFriday to all Denver twitters #SLE09 #GPCE09 #MODELS09 ※ @
22:46 @EelcoVisser: RT yeaha! @zef: Free wifi on Denver airport, awesome! #models09 ※ @
22:52 @JBezivin: #FollowFriday #SLE09 #GPCE09 #MODELS09 @EelcoVisser @fhe @zef @dskolovos @tvdstorm @cwende @richpaige @Felienne @fbahr @avandeursen ※ @
22:59 @JBezivin: JBezivin #FollowFriday #SLE09 #GPCE09 #MODELS09 @dgasevic @DamienCassou @softmodeling @notquiteabba @renggli @dgroenewegen etc. ※ @
- 23:03 @notquiteabba: @JBezivin Please send me or Bardia the slides for your great SLE keynote. We'll put them online; I want to study them in slow motion. ※ @
23:07 @JBezivin: Will do that Ralf. Thanks for organizing such a nice event. ※ @

10 Oct, 11:35 @EelcoVisser: Back in AMS after #gpce09 #sle09 #models09; two weeks to prepare for (the last) #oopsla09 ※ @
14:57 @renggli: Back in Switzerland after a successful #sle09 conference in Denver and exciting days in Colorado Springs. ※ @
16:29 @cwende: goodbye snowy denver #gpce09 #models09 #sle09 twitpic.com ※ @
18:21 @videorobot1: make a lot of money: freedom.ws @OptixSolutions @kelylilia @grammarware @yashved_2890 ※ @
19:01 @anyahelene: Back in Bergen again after #gpce09 / #sle09. Tired and exhausted, but inspired by the #pepm10 deadline extension... ※ @
19:15 @vitalyua: Все на Твитере сидят в браузере или кто какой клиент использует?? Думаю что поставить... подскажите.. ※ @
- 14 Oct, 13:17 @grammarware: @vitalyua лучше, чем @TweetDeck, пока что ничего не придумали: если многих фолловишь, то без него вообще справиться с твиттером нереально. ※ @

11 Oct, 0:14 @grammarware: “Until you’re eighteen nothing matters. […] And afterward it’s the same way.” © Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald #quote ※ @
0:17 @grammarware: Maintained a long discussion on German literature today. I’m not too lousy on the subject—the only mentioned writer I didn’t now is feminist ※ @
0:19 @grammarware: Made a wonderful mistake while typing the last tweet: “maintainted”. Must ask Amsterdam colleagues to adopt the notion, it’s very intuitive. ※ @
3:57 @notquiteabba: Met some people at #sle09 w/o experience in Happy Tree Friends; here is a good one I didn't knew myself: youtube.com ※ @
8:48 @grammarware: Yesterday in the middle of a date I was asked by a man on the street about an advice about how to build a social network on the internet. ※ @
- 21:33 @corpaul: @grammarware does that impress girls? ;) ※ @
  - 21:46 @grammarware: @corpaul perhaps my answer did, I told the guy he’s an idiot. ※ @
- 14:43 @Felienne: @grammarware Apparently you look like someone who knows all about the internet... :) ※ @
  - 16:10 @grammarware: @Felienne apparently, yes! And I wasn’t even wearing the “I know all about the internet” t-shirt! (I double-checked) ※ @
- 17:09 @zef: @grammarware it happened to all of us ;) ※ @
  - 18:30 @grammarware: @zef ORLY? ※ @
    - 19:11 @zef: @grammarware OR-what? ※ @
      - 12 Oct, 1:06 @grammarware: @zef encyclopediadramatica.com In short: I doubt your statement is true. ※ @
13:34 @zef: Any #sle09 people on Google Wave? Join this one: google.com (hope this type of link works) ※ @
23:42 @fbahr: Modeling as unique or universal scheme? Where MDSD and OR meet: "Is modeling an art or a science?" twitter.com #models09 #informs09 ※ @

12 Oct, 0:09 @fbahr: Inevitable references: paradigm = Kuhn (SSR book amazon.com); model = Stachowiak (GMT book amazon.de) #models09 #informs09 ※ @
2:47 @dskolovos: denver airport is apparently the subject of (yet another) conspiracy theory youtube.com #models09 #sle09 ※ @
7:28 @grammarware: Got mail from a book-selling website about new books in the programming languages section. They have a new book on QBASIC! Is it still 2010? ※ @
21:51 @tvdstorm: Back home finally. Enjoyed #sle09, #gpce09 and #model09 though (in that order). ※ @
12:21 @leidaThibaudeau: @grammarware Get 500 followers a day using tweeterspeed.com ※ @
14:35 @grammarware: All right, now that @oniroi is following me, he deserves a private presentation on grammar transformation, convergence and relation recovery ※ @
- 13 Oct, 10:11 @oniroi: @grammarware: enjoyed the private presentation. thx! ;) ※ @
15:08 @avandeursen: On my way to #wcre09, co-organized by @azaidman. web.soccerlab.polymtl.ca ※ @
16:30 @LeonMoonen: Arrived in Lille, FR for #WCRE2009, #WCRE, #WCRE09 ※ @
22:58 @AVallecillo: Back home after excellent #models09 and #sle09 (and two days off). 200+ mails waiting... ※ @

13 Oct, 0:41 @grammarware: People are so excited with “you are the CSS to my HTML” t-shirt. I should really make similar ones like “you are the semantics to my syntax” ※ @
- 0:43 @ashalynd: @grammarware how about "you are the pointer to my function"? ;) ※ @
- 0:45 @guwac: @grammarware try spreadshirt.net and become rich. ※ @
  - 0:53 @grammarware: @guwac I am already selling some t-shirts with @zazzle, there are no technical problems once the nice idea is found ;) ※ @
    - 0:55 @guwac: @grammarware You should sell "I'm a software language engineer" shirts. Everyone likes to have one. ※ @
      - 1:04 @grammarware: @guwac everyone except @oniroi, he was actually complaining yesterday about how he dislikes the term. BTW: zazzle.com ※ @
        1:05 @guwac: @grammarware There is missing a "language" on these shirts. ※ @
        1:06 @guwac: @grammarware BTW: I won't kiss you, sorry. ※ @
      - 1:12 @ashalynd: @guwac @grammarware you are tempting me to believe that the years I've spent in the art school were not completely for nothing ;) ※ @
0:43 @grammarware: “You are the rewriting rules to my base-line grammar”. “You are the data binding to my object model”. “You are the makefile to my sources”. ※ @
- 0:49 @ashalynd: @grammarware "you are the header for my library" "you are the manifest for my solution" "you are the singleton in my design patterns" ※ @
- 0:52 @ashalynd: @grammarware this is an addictive game... one more from FP area - "you are the closure for my free variable" ;) somebody else playing? ※ @
  - 0:59 @grammarware: @ashalynd how much of a percentage do you want? ;) Another one playing right now is Guido Wachsmuth — @guwac. Everyone else is asleep ;) ※ @
    - 1:01 @ashalynd: @grammarware fifty-fifty is OK ;) ※ @
0:46 @guwac: like this one. RT @grammarware: “You are the makefile to my sources”. ※ @
0:52 @grammarware: “You are the test case for my unit”. “You are the abstract syntax tree to my term”. “You are the IDE to my DSL” ← I’m getting better at this ※ @
0:54 @guwac: Another one I like. RT @grammarware: “You are the IDE to my DSL” ← ※ @
1:03 @guwac: RT @ashalynd: @grammarware how about "you are the pointer to my function"? ;) ※ @
21:36 @grammarware: You are the IDE to my DSL: zazzle.com zazzle.com Gallery: zazzle.com ※ @
21:37 @grammarware: You are the makefile to my sources: zazzle.com Gallery: zazzle.com ※ @
21:38 @grammarware: You are the pointer to my function (collab with @ashalynd) zazzle.com Gallery: zazzle.com ※ @
- 21:44 @ashalynd: @grammarware cool! when are we departing to Haiti? ;-D ※ @
  - 21:54 @grammarware: @ashalynd I’ll let you know, start packing. ※ @
21:40 @grammarware: “I’m a software language engineer” t-shirt (collab with @guwac) zazzle.com Gallery: zazzle.com ※ @
10:03 @LeonMoonen: Peggy Story at #WCRE09: Reverse engineering is *collaborative* process to create *shareable* representations of system at higher abstraction ※ @
10:08 @zef: RT @mattmecham: "6 billion minutes are spent on Facebook each day". Nice. Now if we spent those minutes on looking for a cure for cancer.... ※ @
- 10:15 @grammarware: @zef well, the first step is making a facebook fan group for that and inviting your friends to join… ※ @
  - 10:17 @zef: @grammarware yes, I'm sure that will work. ※ @
10:14 @onierstrasz: Peggy Storey #wcre09 keynote on how to use web 2.0 & CSCW to reverse engineering: look at Sidewiki Googlewave Crowdsource Web2RE ※ @
10:34 @LeonMoonen: What could a collaborative reverse engineering space look like? check MyExperiment myexperiment.org for bioinformatics example . #wcre09 ※ @
11:09 @all_lies_about: Только проснулась, а субтитры к хаусу уже готовы. Вот это я называю ДОБРОЕ утро ※ @
- 13:43 @grammarware: @all_lies_about они плохие, чесслово. И термины неправильные, и почти все идиомы перевраны. Хорошие постараемся побыстрее выпустить, честно. ※ @
  - 20:23 @all_lies_about: @grammarware да мне не особо важно как переведены идиомы) для меня такой вариант сабов лучший. спасибо за оперативность! ※ @
11:28 @cscwuvic: Just finished keynote at wcre2009: web.soccerlab.polymtl.ca #cscwuvic ※ @
12:03 @avandeursen: Enjoyed wonderful keynote by @cscwuvic / @margaretstorey at #wcre09! ※ @
12:04 @avandeursen: Made notes on paper instead of in tweets -- am I oldfashioned? #wcre09 ※ @
- 13:41 @grammarware: @avandeursen it's ok as long as you will post them on twitpic afterwards. ※ @
12:05 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: reverse engineering is a collaborative process creating shareable representations ※ @
12:05 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: reverse engineering involves distributed cognition. en.wikipedia.org ※ @
12:07 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: place and space in collaboration by Dourish: dourish.com ※ @
12:08 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: communication between different types of stakeholders involves "boundary objects". ※ @
12:10 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: need to put more emphasis on knowledge receiver in reverse eng., and consider resulting documentation as boundary objects. ※ @
12:10 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: @cscwuvic enjoys tweeting while teaching, and "loves getting tweets back from her students" #cswuvic ※ @
12:11 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: class tweeting gives course a heartbeat outside the regular teaching hours #cswuvic ※ @
12:12 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: facebook much more popular among #wcre09 participants than Twitter. ※ @
12:12 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: utest.com On-demand testing via a global community of professional testers ※ @
12:13 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: can we crowdsource reverse engineering tasks? ※ @
12:13 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: IBM Jazz helps to create a "place" where software developers can share information ※ @
12:14 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: Tagging in IBJ Jazz was highly successful to bridge the gap between socio- and technical aspects of software development ※ @
12:14 @avandeursen: #wcre09 keynote: Are current (individual-focused) program comprehension theories outdated, given the growing importance of collaboration? ※ @
12:23 @avandeursen: #wcre09: Simon Butler finds statistically significant correlation between identifier naming quality and FindBugs warnings ※ @
12:46 @zef: #wcre09 on tweetview: tweetview.net not that many twitterers there it seems. ※ @
14:13 @grammarware: Follow @avandeursen, @leonmoonen, @onierstrasz, @azaidman, @margaretstorey and perhaps others tweeting about #WCRE09 at uni-koblenz.de ※ @
14:20 @grammarware: Finally, pedal-powered laptops! I was waiting for them badly. olpcnews.com (via @olpcnews) ※ @
14:23 @grammarware: Too bad I'm not at the VU anymore! Whoever is in Amsterdam, don't miss your chance to see Tim Berners-Lee on 20.10 vu.nl ※ @
- 14:39 @ashalynd: @grammarware thanks for spreading the news! I'll go there. never have seen VU yet. ※ @
  - 14:43 @grammarware: @ashalynd admission and lunch is free, but you will need to register at vu.nl Say hi to IMSE people from me ;) ※ @
    - 14:46 @ashalynd: @grammarware today was the last day when one can register for that event. just in time! ※ @
14:36 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 Johannes Passing talk on #ntrace - exploiting windows hotswapping infrastructure for efficient dynamic analysis ※ @
14:37 @ashalynd: via @grammarware: Whoever is in Amsterdam, don't miss your chance to see Tim Berners-Lee on 20/oct/2009 vu.nl ※ @
14:40 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 Chris Ackerman characterizes interactions as finite state automata; converts them via regular expressions to sequence diagrams ※ @
15:00 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 wireless is extremely spotty - what is it about a roomful of computer geeks that will bring any wlan to its knees? ※ @
15:19 @JBezivin: RT @avandeursen #wcre09 keynote: reverse engineering is a collaborative process creating shareable representations ※ @
15:22 @AlesyaD: Люби людей независимо от их поступков, потому как у каждого есть положительные качества, только было бы желание их разглядеть. ※ @
- 14 Oct, 13:03 @grammarware: @AlesyaD а как предлагается их разглядывать, если не обращать внимание на поступки? ※ @
15:26 @hangingnoodles: Pedal-powered laptops! olpcnews.com (via @grammarware @olpcnews) ※ @
15:26 @jagbhalla: Pedal-powered laptops! olpcnews.com (via @grammarware @olpcnews) ※ @
15:36 @Sewicked: RT @hangingnoodles Pedal-powered laptops! olpcnews.com (via @grammarware @olpcnews)_Am I the only 1 who finds this neat?! ※ @
17:07 @LeonMoonen: Nicolas Bettenburg uses Beanplots jstatsoft.org to easily compare distributions of univariate data #wcre09 ※ @
21:18 @APierantonio: back from #models09 and working on the call-for-lectures: great proposals (including some from the organizers of both #models09 and #sle09) ※ @
22:51 @misha_kvakin: Миша скандирует: да! #skype чатик, прекрасная идея, @absolvo! Давно я тебя не видел. (А многих — вообще не видел.) ※ @
- 22:53 @absolvo: @misha_kvakin ну видео-чатик врядли получится, больше чем с двумя людьми, а аудио можно :) хоть сейчас ※ @
  - 14 Oct, 1:08 @grammarware: @absolvo @misha_kvakin для видеоконференций с 3 и более участниками я использую mebeam.com — качество почти сносное, нет регистрации. ※ @
    - 8:18 @absolvo: @grammarware спасибо, попробуем ※ @

14 Oct, 0:11 @brady: Single-purpose device: A Wikipedia in your pocket. I saw the Wikireader two weeks ago in person. Very cool. -> thewikireader.com ※ @
- 1:00 @grammarware: @brady @wikireader putting a “random” button on the face panel seems like the worst GUI/HCI decision ever. Is this feature so freq.used? ※ @
0:24 @agilenature: 8 Questions to Ask Your "Social Media Expert" davefleet.com ※ @
- 0:44 @grammarware: @agilenature I can’t believe my eyes: the article was written in 2005, and it still makes perfect sense in such a hot/hype domain! ※ @
  - 0:48 @agilenature: @grammarware You bet! Aren't you sick of the hordes of experts and gurus out there? ※ @
    - 0:59 @grammarware: @agilenature I am a healthy guy, I don’t get sick on such things, but I admit the abundance of unqualified "experts"/"gurus" is overwhelming ※ @
0:41 @kr0b3ng: а что делать, если с 00:00 по 5:00 у меня голова варит лучше, чем в любое дневное время?! какие-то идеи появляються сумасшедшие... ※ @
- 21:31 @grammarware: @kr0b3ng как что делать? Найти работу, которая позволяет работать продуктивно по ночам, а потом днём отсыпаться и вечером начинать жить. ※ @
1:01 @ashalynd: ...because in #scala , many run-time problems become compile problems ※ @
- 1:12 @grammarware: @ashalynd this is true for just about any high-level GPL that is not intended for dirty hacking. Scala is not the best here, look for COBOL! ※ @
  - 1:33 @ashalynd: @grammarware dirty hacking has its beauty too ;) ※ @
    - 1:46 @grammarware: @ashalynd but of course! You don’t need to tell a software language engineer that every language has its own amusing properties ;) ※ @
1:10 @grammarware: Wow. Just wow. I don’t believe my eyes! RT @mollydotcom: @W3C gets a redesign — after all these years w3.org ※ @
- 1:14 @mighty_z: @grammarware Damn! ※ @
  - 1:19 @grammarware: @mighty_z aren’t you supposed to be sleeping already? ;) If you’re not, let’s translate the new website! ※ @
1:14 @grammarware: RT @avvin: The word “tomorrow” is invented for indecisive men and for kids. © I. S. Turgenev ※ @
1:39 @chepalova: Менталист S02E03 - офигенная ※ @
- 1:44 @grammarware: @chepalova меня убеждали начать смотреть, а я всё сомневаюсь. Оно правда на Хауса похоже, или всё-таки к Монку ближе? ※ @
  - 1:39 @chepalova: @grammarware ну, он все же детектив, так что в этом плане ближе к Монку. Но по стилю что-то от Хауса есть. Мне нравится, хороший сериал ※ @
    - 2:04 @grammarware: @chepalova спасибо, попробую тогда, пожалуй. А The Wire знаешь/смотришь? Мне в твиттере кто-то советовал не так давно, на лепре о нём мало. ※ @
      - 14:11 @chepalova: @grammarware не слышала о таком, хрена, у него рейтинг imdb 9.7! Качаю 1-ый сезон, попробую ※ @
        13:52 @grammarware: @chepalova вот кагбе да, его мало кто знает, но знающие тащатся неимоверно. Тоже поставил первый сезон качаться, поглядим, пощупаем. ※ @
        15 Oct, 14:00 @chepalova: @grammarware soap.leprosorium.ru вот пост на лепре про твой сериал (я внутрь не заходила, чтоб спойлеры не читать), он есть :) ※ @
        16:35 @grammarware: @chepalova спасибо, не видел. Там внутри пицоттыщ ссылок на рапидшару! Может, чуть меньше, но коммент с ними занимает у меня семь экранов!!1 ※ @
2:17 @APierantonio: some pics taken during #models09: 1. flickr.com 2. flickr.com ※ @
9:26 @onierstrasz: #wcre most influential paper 1999- Nicholas Anquetil : clustering algorithms do not discover hidden structure in software; they impose it ※ @
9:30 @onierstrasz: #wcre anquetil: avoid "sparse" features to cluster (rarely occur, so does not help) ※ @
21:37 @grammarware: The Fun Theory: youtube.com (via @zio5t4n @Mr_TiM @shakinru @dimokru @terehoff) ※ @
21:51 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 most influential paper 1999- Nicholas Anquetil : clustering algorithms do not discover hidden structure in software; they impose it ※ @
21:52 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 anquetil 1999 paper: choice of clustering algorithm does not matter (!); choice of similarity metric does not matter (much) ※ @
21:52 @margaretstorey: Nice presentation by Anquetil/Lethbridge of influential paper from WCRE99 on clustering. Cluster using tags on work items? #wcre09 ※ @
21:52 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 Instead of clustering to shoehorn software into new fixed structures, use it to generate dynamic views related to tasks at hand ※ @
21:53 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 anquetil: avoid "sparse" features to cluster (rarely occur, so does not help) ※ @
10:00 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 Static remodularization of software is analogous to web 1.0. Dynamic clustering is web 2.0. ※ @
10:38 @EelcoVisser: RT @GPCE10: GPCE 2010 will co-locate with SLE 2010 in Eindhoven #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
11:00 @zef: RT @EelcoVisser: RT @GPCE10: GPCE 2010 will co-locate with SLE 2010 in Eindhoven #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
11:25 @mmalohlava: RT @EelcoVisser RT @GPCE10: GPCE 2010 will co-locate with SLE 2010 in Eindhoven #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
15:11 @yacedaka: а у кого еще есть инвайты на вейв, а? ※ @
- 14:48 @grammarware: @yacedaka неделю назад все твиттили «дайте инвайтов на вейв», теперь все довольно твитят «я теперь на вейве!». Я пролетел в обеих случаях ;) ※ @
18:41 @avvin: Спасибо за РТ! ;))) @superprogresor @_ff @grammarware @Smeet007 ※ @
22:03 @grammarware: RT @publicfarley: RT @o2webdev: Python vs Clojure — Evolving blog.bestinclass.dk ※ @
22:07 @akuhn: Nicolas Bettenburg uses Beanplots (rather than boxplots) to compare distributions of data, jstatsoft.org (via @leonmoonen #wcre09) ※ @
22:13 @acherm: RT @GPCE10: GPCE 2010 will co-locate with SLE 2010 in Eindhoven #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
22:59 @anyahelene: Think I would've preferred Málaga for #sle10, but colocation with #gpce10 is good, and travel to Eindhoven is almost as convenient as Oslo. ※ @

15 Oct, 1:17 @dgasevic: @GPCE10: Great news! GPCE 2010 will co-locate with SLE 2010 in Eindhoven next year. Looking forward! #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
1:18 @dgasevic: Key challenges for SLE reserach: What are our priorities? #gpce10 #sle10 ※ @
- 2:13 @dskolovos: @dgasevic close the gap between the model/grammarware communities. encourage submissions with co-authors from both communities? #sle10 ※ @
  - 16 Oct, 6:33 @dgasevic: @dskolovos:yes, SLE should aim at that - grammar and modeling folks submitting together + more interactive sessions and discussions #sle10. ※ @
1:58 @grammarware: RT @frama_c: RT @jasongorman: Should we be worried about “ubiquitous computing” arriving before “reliable computing”? ※ @
2:03 @grammarware: RT @testobsessed: Microsoft researcher finds out that code coverage doesn’t correlate with quality, but TDD does research.microsoft.com ※ @
21:32 @onierstrasz: #wcre09 "On the Relationship Between Change Coupling and Software Defects" inf.usi.ch ※ @
10:39 @cscwuvic: #cscwuvic students, search for wcre09 to see how a colleague twittered about the conf. and my keynote (so you know what I am doing away!) ※ @
13:07 @JohanDenHaan: Successfully presented / defended my thesis this morning. Happy with the result :) ※ @
- 16:52 @grammarware: @JohanDenHaan @ModelDriven congratulations! Hopefully you are not the only one happy with it. ※ @
14:04 @notquiteabba: @GPCE10 has leaked the info (I was waiting for this); so yes #gpce10 and #sle10 co-locate in Eindhoven; will blog and tweet about this soon. ※ @
14:16 @GPCE10: RT @notquiteabba: @GPCE10 has leaked the info; so yes #gpce10 and #sle10 co-locate in Eindhoven; will blog and tweet about this soon. ※ @
14:27 @sbastn: Thinking of starting a code study group. We choose an open source library and we discuss the code. ※ @
- 16:46 @grammarware: @sbastn there were reading clubs earlier, when people would sit through the evening with one reading aloud and others listening to him/her. ※ @
- 16:47 @grammarware: @sbastn by the way, what do you mean by “code study”? @DSpinellis's “code reading”? Static code analysis? Benchmarking/measurements? ※ @
  - 21:28 @sbastn: :@grammarware here is the announcement of our code study group sebastianlab.com ※ @
    - 16 Oct, 0:23 @grammarware: @sbastn so it IS the code reading / code review after all. Interesting indeed. ※ @
14:38 @cdlm: Reverse Engineering Models workshop #rem09, at #wcre09 ※ @
15:01 @scarych: Я сегодня сварил свой первый в жизни полноценный суп. И его можно есть! ※ @
- 16:37 @grammarware: @scarych «дорогая, ты не поверишь, но этот суп я испёк сам!» ※ @
  - 16:45 @scarych: @grammarware ну почти так) ※ @
16:30 @scr4t: лепрозорий нарывается - sostav.ru ※ @
- 16:55 @grammarware: @scr4t ага, горе-журналистку уже в двух постах сливают. ※ @
16:40 @grammarware: The easiest way to get apps getvolery.com — this won’t work on Mac, but a cool idea nevertheless (via @scr4t) ※ @
17:57 @sle10: Anything with the tag #sle10 will be retweeted here. Greetings, @notquiteabba. ※ @
18:10 @notquiteabba: Ok, @sle10 is up and running. It aggregates (retweets) tweets that mention #sle10. Perhaps I also should rewteet mentions of @sle10 ? ※ @
- 16 Oct, 1:15 @dgasevic: @notquiteabba @sle10 is up and running. It aggregates (retweets) tweets that mention #sle10. Perhaps we should rewteet mentions of @sle10. ※ @
18:12 @sle10: RT @notquiteabba Ok, @sle10 is up and running. It aggregates (retweets) tweets that mention #sle10. Perhaps I also should rewteet menti ... ※ @
18:16 @JBezivin: RT @notquiteabba: @sle10 is up and running. It aggregates tweets that mention #sle10. Perhaps I also should rewteet mentions of @sle10 ? ※ @

16 Oct, 1:19 @sle10: RT @dgasevic @notquiteabba @sle10 is up and running. It aggregates (retweets) tweets that mention #sle10. Perhaps we should rewteet ment ... ※ @
2:23 @notquiteabba: #sle10 can't be everywhere; wanted to be with #tools10 (and hence in Malaga) also, but July is tough for an Oct conf.! ※ @
2:35 @sle10: RT @notquiteabba #sle10 can't be everywhere; wanted to be with #tools10 (and hence in Malaga) also, but July is tough for an Oct conf.! ※ @
5:58 @ghostscat: По-моему, люди, которые на предложение начать жизнь сначала, говорят, что ничего бы не стали менять, либо лжецы, либо трусы. ※ @
- 10:46 @grammarware: @ghostscat кардинально менять я бы, может, ничего и не стал, но вот очень многое сделал бы лучше и правильнее. Ну или просто с первого раза! ※ @
6:38 @sle10: RT @SLE2009 Preparation of SLE 2010 already started. Please, stay tuned at @sle10 #sle10 ※ @
6:38 @sle10: RT @dgasevic @dskolovos:yes, SLE should aim at that - grammar and modeling folks submitting together + more interactive sessions and dis ... ※ @
8:16 @grammarware: Is anyone out there besides @zef and yours truly already organising Twitter Lists? Seems like a nice feature, I’m gonna use it extensively. ※ @
21:55 @azaidman: Jean-Luc Hainaut is giving his keynote at #wcre09 entitled "Legacy and Future of Data Reverse Engineering" ※ @
10:43 @grammarware: The morning rain has a devastating effect on Germans: no people on the street, no people at the university. Twitter and Skype are alive yet. ※ @
10:49 @grammarware: RT @EelcoVisser: RT @conal: Do not believe everything you think. ※ @
10:56 @grammarware: Bringing you the #SLE10 tweet archive waaaay ahead of tweetview ;-) uni-koblenz.de Stay connected! ※ @
11:10 @sle10: RT @grammarware Bringing you the #SLE10 tweet archive waaaay ahead of tweetview ;-) uni-koblenz.de Stay connected! ※ @
13:25 @JBezivin: @anyahelene: would've preferred Málaga for #sle10, but colocation with #gpce10 is good: now you can visit both Eindhoven and Málaga #tools10 ※ @
13:27 @sle10: RT @JBezivin @anyahelene: would've preferred Málaga for #sle10, but colocation with #gpce10 is good: now you can visit both Eindhoven an ... ※ @
14:08 @grammarware: While composing another twitter list I found a person who blocked me. That’s how you know someone doesn’t like you in real life nowadays! ※ @
- 14:18 @ashalynd: @grammarware how do you use this feature? I don't see any reference to lists on my twitter home page. ※ @
  - 15:44 @grammarware: @ashalynd twitter.com plus there's a button "Lists" which you can use to make your own lists. ※ @
    - 15:52 @ashalynd: @grammarware I get a broken link. I think they didn't yet release this feature to all users. ※ @
      - 16:17 @grammarware: @ashalynd wow, I didn’t expect myself to be an exclusive twitter user! ;) ※ @
16:21 @guwac: @grammarware Visiting @zef 's list, I get an empty page. Same with your link. At least you are two exclusive twitter users. ※ @
17:23 @RobertBucci: RT @affiliatepromo1: To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved @grammarware @laura__peterson @darkdomino @RobertBucci ※ @
21:52 @JBezivin: #FF @AVallecillo @sle10 @programmingjoy @kohlerm @agrissh @alexandrosM @charoy @APierantonio @softmodeling ※ @

17 Oct, 12:00 @grammarware: RT @JasonGorman: So you think you’re “refactoring”? parlezuml.com ※ @
12:01 @grammarware: The keyboard @oniroi took from Belgium is funny: all Latin letters on the left hand side in random order, the right half filled w/diacritics ※ @
12:11 @grammarware: Who says Twitter is useless? Yesterday discussed with @notquiteabba the need to read model diffing papers, today I’m followed by @DDiRuscio. ※ @
12:15 @grammarware: RT @JBezivin: They are two ways to do academic research: to invent your own problems or to discover them from industry collaboration. ※ @
19:51 @peterfriese: just updated my ESTA record for next week's flight to OOPSLA. #oopsla #oopsla09 ※ @

18 Oct, 22:40 @grammarware: Turns out @CorPaul has just become my 100th contact at @LinkedIn. I like how I'm getting to know more work-related people first via Twitter. ※ @
- 19 Oct, 1:13 @corpaul: @grammarware congrats on that mate :) ※ @
22:57 @grammarware: A feature proposal for @Skype: when calling a landline/mobile phone, display how late it is in the country you're calling. Simple yet nifty! ※ @
- 19 Oct, 17:10 @peteratskype: @grammarware we already do that for your Skype contacts – thanks for the suggestion too :) ※ @
23:13 @svdburg: @grammarware lol, have you checked every LinkedIn page of all the people you're following? ※ @
- 19 Oct, 0:10 @grammarware: @svdburg nope, just seeing familiar names among the recommended people is enough. BTW now that you mention it, I had to find you as well ;) ※ @

19 Oct, 2:24 @cdlm: More conference photos flickr.com #wcre09 #pharolille ※ @
14:51 @grammarware: During @oniroi's stay, his phone, @notquiteabba's keyboard, and now my MBP were destroyed. By the time he leaves, Koblenz will be in ruins. ※ @
- 14:57 @oniroi: @grammarware: so far, floor of a hotel in Lille is the largest thing that got destroyed by my mere presence (it flooded) .. fingers crossed ※ @
22:42 @davengeo: This is for @ashalynd RT @unclebobmartin: I will be giving a talk in Amsterdam on Tuesday night. Follow @larsvonk for details. ※ @
- 22:44 @ashalynd: @davengeo thanks, I have seen it! ※ @
  - 22:46 @davengeo: @ashalynd go there and give me some feedback ※ @
    - 23:01 @ashalynd: @davengeo tomorrow I'll also go to Dies Natalis prompted by @grammarware (where Tim Berners Lee will be speaking).looking forward to it. ※ @
      - 20 Oct, 0:10 @grammarware: @ashalynd please do twit afterwards about what you see & hear there! The only thing I'll be attending tomorrow is a Popa Chubby's concert ;) ※ @
        0:20 @ashalynd: @grammarware let's hope I will not get lost :) have never been in VU before! ※ @
        0:23 @grammarware: @ashalynd tram #5, metro #50 or #51, the stop is called "De Boelelaan/VU", enter the biggest/closest building to your right, go upstairs ;) ※ @
23:20 @grammarware: Set my GoogleTalk status to "Flüggåɘnkð€čhiœßølsên" for a couple of days, frankly surprised by the number of people who don't get the quote. ※ @
- 23:22 @Grimenny: @grammarware That's weird! ※ @
- 23:25 @ashalynd: @grammarware I give up ※ @
  - 20 Oct, 0:20 @grammarware: @ashalynd imdb.com which is a silly but funny & quite well-known (at least, I thought so) movie. ※ @
- 20 Oct, 12:48 @dizzy57: @grammarware It's flüggåənk∂€čhiœβøl∫ên, spelled with ∂ and ∫. ※ @
  - 14:29 @grammarware: @dizzy57 thanks! No wonder people didn't recognise it! Funny that the only two places where I screwed up are math symbols. ※ @
23:28 @SoundSystemSDC: RT @grammarware: Set GoogleTalk status 2 "Flüggåɘnkð€čhiœßølsên" for a while, surprised by the number of people who don't get the quote. ※ @
23:30 @MikeMoulton: thesharpinvestor.com RT @grammarware: Set GoogleTalk status 2 "Flüggåɘnkð€čhi.. twitter.com ※ @

20 Oct, 0:17 @grammarware: Did you know that @tvdstorm, one of the apologists of Rascal and MetaEnv, has TXL installed on his machine? Stay tuned for more revelations! ※ @
1:31 @grammarware: twitpic.com (by @HughBriss) - talking about nice t-shirts: I would so wear this one! ※ @
10:03 @ashalynd: Tim Berners Lee: there should be metadata standard for (journalist) photos in the web, to verify their origin, timing etc. ※ @
- 15:35 @grammarware: @ashalynd was he somehow not satisfied with EXIF? It's in use for years already, and I thought it's pretty decent and successful. ※ @
  - 16:15 @ashalynd: @grammarware I never heard about EXIF before :) ※ @
    - 21 Oct, 10:07 @grammarware: @ashalynd it's in common use for JPEG, as in "hey look at the pic I took today" - "dude, it's from 2003, taken w/camera you still can't buy" ※ @
10:41 @grammarware: People, people, people! Use Web 2.0 thoughtfully, beware of context! LinkedIn events are for conferences. FaceBook events are for concerts. ※ @
14:24 @grammarware: The laptop I need to work on now is so old even MikTeX is sufficiently outdated to refuse any automated downloads of packages. Yes, it's XP. ※ @
15:06 @grammarware: Amusing story at @mozy: a laptop was stolen from a guy, but the backups went on—the owner could find the criminals by their personal photos. ※ @
- 15:09 @ashalynd: @grammarware heard a similar story about TomTom GO - the police used "recent destinations" feature to find out who was robbed by the owners. ※ @
15:31 @grammarware: RT @ashalynd: Tim Berners-Lee: I never thought people will be learning HTML, they were expected to use WYSIWYG editors. ※ @
15:33 @grammarware: Not only children! RT @ashalynd: Tim Berners Lee: children should be taught, if they put stuff online, to remove traces of who they are... ※ @
15:55 @grammarware: In a few moments Software Languages Team & guests will enjoy @oniroi's (VU, Brussels) presentation at #i4cs about a program query language. ※ @
16:55 @pauloborba: Writing new version of GTTSE 2009 product line refactoring tutorial gttse.wikidot.com ※ @
18:08 @publicfarley: RT @grammarware: RT @ashalynd: Tim Berners-Lee: I never thought people would be learning HTML, they were expected to use WYSIWYG editors. ※ @
22:53 @grammarware: Popa Chubby is fucking great! Whomever says otherwise, has never seen him performing. Koblenz is happy to have him playing. ※ @
- 22:55 @ashalynd: @grammarware so you had a good fun too :) ※ @
  - 21 Oct, 10:03 @grammarware: @ashalynd have there ever been any doubts about me being capable (and persistent) of that? ;) ※ @
    - 12:56 @ashalynd: @grammarware no, but the way you have referenced it before, one might think you have been forced to go ;) ※ @
      - 13:18 @grammarware: @ashalynd nah, I was actually bragging, because Popa Chubby is even greater than Tim Berners-Lee :-P I'm his most devoted fan in RheinlandPf ※ @
        13:20 @ashalynd: @grammarware yep, I have got it already ;-) ※ @

21 Oct, 10:01 @grammarware: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 is available for download: microsoft.com ※ @
12:44 @grammarware: How extremely inconvenient to type your passwords on a keyboard with a different layout! Yes, I'm one of those people who use %, &, *, etc. ※ @
- 13:06 @EelcoVisser: @grammarware liberate yourself and use passphrases en.wikipedia.org ※ @
  - 13:20 @grammarware: @EelcoVisser a perfect solution would be to design a passphase that avoids punctuation and the letters Y and Z (swapped in German layout). ※ @
    - 13:24 @ashalynd: @grammarware what about French layout, it's also a bit different? ※ @
      - 13:42 @grammarware: @ashalynd if @oniroi's keyboard I was tweeting about a while ago is a French layout, then yes; if it was a Belgian one, then I don't know. ※ @
        13:57 @ashalynd: @grammarware sorry,the question was not "whether the French layout is different"(AZERTY is)but"how it influences password making rules":) ※ @
        14:27 @oniroi: @grammarware, @ashalynd: the Belgian layout is a subtle variant of the French one, of which Apple decided to bring out yet another variant ※ @
    - 13:36 @EelcoVisser: @grammarware that shouldn't be too hard while maintaining security ※ @
- 15:19 @BlackTigerX: @grammarware me too, and I don't even memorize them, I just know the pattern, so I'm at a complete loss when using a different kbd ※ @
  - 18:12 @grammarware: @BlackTigerX I had to use another computer to replicate my hand gestures, then see what appears on the screen and then find corr.chars there ※ @
13:58 @grammarware: Installing Linux (Ubuntu) on a desktop computer while trying to work on a legacy laptop under Windows. Haven't really used desktops for ages ※ @
14:36 @oniroi: thx @grammarware for taking me to the concert of Popa Chubby in Koblenz. I'm new to what wp calls electric blues, but enjoyed it a lot! #fb ※ @
17:57 @grammarware: Today Software Languages Team had another visitor presentation at #i4cs by @tvdstorm (CWI, Amsterdam) about #Rascal making SCAM EASY. ※ @
- 23:02 @mjackel: @grammarware I got repsonse fron a younger @notqieabb-fan that even more tutorial-like would help t increase SLE-followership at #i4cs. ※ @
18:04 @institute4cs: RT @grammarware Today Software Languages Team had another visitor presentation at #i4cs by @tvdstorm (CWI, Amsterdam) about #Rascal maki ... ※ @
20:24 @berniezang: Soooo anyone in my twittersphere going to #oopsla09 What about #PLATEAU09? ※ @
23:07 @institute4cs: RT @mjackel @grammarware I got repsonse fron a younger @notqieabb-fan that even more tutorial-like would help t increase SLE-followershi ... ※ @

22 Oct, 6:30 @grammarware: Let the tentative name for the "horizontalize-prime" grammar transformation proposed yesterday by @tvdstorm for now be "flatten". #xbgf ※ @
6:32 @grammarware: Basically, xbgf:flatten is a multiple-production version of xbgf:unchain. We stick to our notion of horisontalisation we had for SLPS. ※ @
11:32 @EelcoVisser: "Who's going to write all those syntax recovery rules?" "They are derived automatically from the grammar!" #oopsla09 rehearsal talk ※ @
13:50 @elsvene: RT @grammarware: There are two ways to do academic research: to invent your own problems or to discover them from industry collaboration. ※ @
15:43 @djspiewak: RT @EelcoVisser: "Who's going to write all those syntax recovery rules?" "They are derived automatically from the grammar!" #oopsla09 ※ @

23 Oct, 2:50 @grammarware: Disciplined coevolution of tools and papers should be a research domain. #i4cs ※ @
3:03 @berniezang: Mojitos and a cubano coffee. Best way to prep for #oopsla09 ※ @
3:03 @institute4cs: RT @grammarware Disciplined coevolution of tools and papers should be a research domain. #i4cs ※ @
8:49 @elsvene: RT @grammarware: Disciplined coevolution of tools and papers should be a research domain. #i4cs ※ @
12:47 @grammarware: Running WinXP now on @VirtualBox under @Ubuntu_Linux. Quite wonky with rebooting, otherwise fine. The main reason is the use of @VSEditor. ※ @
13:33 @grammarware: According to James Ussher's "Annales Veteris Testamenti", today is the day our world was created exactly 6012 years ago. ※ @
15:41 @Felienne: RT @grammarware Disciplined coevolution of tools and papers should be a research domain. #i4cs ※ @
17:25 @grammarware: RT @ovnicraft: Python == DRY (don't repeat yourself). Java == WET (write everything twice) ※ @
18:13 @anyahelene: C(++) is WETter... RT @grammarware: RT @ovnicraft: Python == DRY (don't repeat yourself). Java == WET (write everything twice) ※ @
19:03 @oniroi: big thank you to @notquiteabba, @grammarware for the fruitful LMP-related discussions and warm welcome in Koblenz the past two weeks! ※ @

24 Oct, 15:02 @ianwremmel: Day three on Disney property. Heading to the Contemporary to start SVing for #oopsla09. ※ @
22:30 @marcelramaker: Windows 7 rocks! Got VMWare WS 7RC running openSuse 11.1, Teaming on SLE10.2, XP, OES2 on my new Dell XPS 1530 .... Wroooom :) ※ @
23:55 @berniezang: Confused workshop day (Monday instead of Sunday) What should I do with my extra day? #oopsla09 ※ @

25 Oct, 10:25 @JBezivin: RT @EelcoVisser: "Who's going to write all those syntax recovery rules?" "They are derived automatically from the grammar!" #oopsla09 ※ @
11:35 @ianwremmel: Up before dawn at Disney World for #oopsla09. Weird. ※ @
12:43 @ianwremmel: Just spent 50 minutes in a taxi trying to get to #oopsla09. It's a 10 minute drive. ※ @
13:51 @peterfriese: at the DSL workshop at #oopsla09 significant number of people from Europe. ※ @
13:54 @fhe: New hashtag to follow: #oopsla09 (also covered on @zef's TweetView tweetview.net) ※ @
14:02 @peterfriese: Martin Schindler on Design Guidelines for DSLs: "language has to be consistent" #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:06 @peterfriese: Martin Schindler: "try to reuse, especially the type system, as lots of work is involved with building a type system" #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:11 @peterfriese: Martin Schindler: "adopt existing syntax used by domain experts" #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:26 @JBezivin: RT @peterfriese: Martin Schindler: "adopt existing syntax used by domain experts" #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:27 @JBezivin: RT @fhe: New hashtag to follow: #oopsla09 (also covered on @zef's TweetView tweetview.net) ※ @
14:28 @peterfriese: JP Tolvanen on evaluating the use of domain specific modeling in practice. Interesting sample: Polar Sports computers. #dsworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:39 @chrisflach: baixando alguns artigos do workshop sobre Architecture in an Agile World: mysite.verizon.net ※ @
14:41 @peterfriese: JP Tolvanen (Polar Case Study): developers more satisfied with DSL solution than traditional approach. #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:53 @berniezang: Mashups work is quite different at #OOPSLA09 than at VLHCC, but still very insightful. Great implementation ideas floating around. ※ @
14:55 @JBezivin: RT @peterfriese: JP Tolvanen: developers more satisfied with DSL solution than traditional approach. #dslworkshop #oopsla09 ※ @
14:58 @JBezivin: RT @berniezang: Mashups work quite different at #OOPSLA09 than at #VLHCC. Great implementation ideas floating around. ※ @
15:08 @peterfriese: More and more people are combining multiple DSLs. Good if they are based on a common base infrastructure. #EMF FTW #oopsla09 #dslworkshop ※ @
15:25 @JBezivin: RT @peterfriese: More and more people are combining multiple DSLs... based on a common base infrastructure #EMF #oopsla09 #dslworkshop ※ @
16:43 @berniezang: Star Trek as a metaphor for mashups. "Scotty is a smart guy. He's an engineer." Quite spectacular #oopsla09 ※ @
16:52 @bigballofmud: #oopsla become a part of "Splash" is bittersweet in the same way as was Pluto being demonted to a Dwarf Planet... ※ @
- 26 Oct, 20:25 @wallingf: @bigballofmud Just heard about Splash from friends at OOPSLA. What else will make up the constellation? ※ @
17:30 @zef: Shame I'm not at #oopsla09, but do like being at home instead. Two US conferences in one month is a bit much. ※ @
17:31 @zef: RT @peterfriese: More and more people are combining multiple DSLs. Good if they are based on a common base infrastructure. #oopsla09 ※ @
17:54 @JBezivin: RT @zef @peterfriese: More and more people are combining multiple DSLs -> We need a "DSLs combination DSL" #oopsla09 ※ @
18:01 @JBezivin: RT @markusvoelter @JBezivin @eelcovisser: interested in the #KISS manifesto: We should talk to Jorn #oopsla09 ※ @
18:28 @EelcoVisser: we miss you at #oopsla @zef (btw there seems to be confusion between #oopsla and #oopsla09 tags) ※ @
- 19:18 @zef: @EelcoVisser yeah, but most people seem to be using #oopsla09 though. ※ @
19:35 @fbahr: #OOPSLA09 #MiniPLoP refactory.com incl Gr8est Hits Experience paper refactory.com @JoshuaKerievsky @BigBallOfMud @IndustrialLogic ※ @
20:10 @EelcoVisser: KISS progress: make distinction in external and internal motivation for DSLs #oopsla09 ※ @
20:35 @AVallecillo: Isn't that "DSLs combination #DSL" nothing else than a #viewpoint modeling language? (with #correspondences, #modelweaving, or... #oopsla09 ※ @
21:29 @grammarware: What kind of world do we live in? Switched my iPod in the middle of the huge bridge across the Rhine, found two different wi-fi networks. ※ @
- 21:36 @mjackel: @grammarware Configuring my Vista-laptop for eduroam I got aware of a dozen autodetected hotel networks,. My laptop tracking me! ※ @
  - 26 Oct, 15:56 @grammarware: @mjackel I'm kinda used to see a lot of Wi-Fi choices in more civilised places like hotels, but in the middle of the bridge it surprised me. ※ @
22:51 @peterfriese: RT @JBezivin: "We need a "DSLs combination DSL" <-- we're using @Xtext a lot to combined DSLs. #oopsla09 ※ @
- 22:55 @JBezivin: @peterfriese #XText is nice: keep it simple. Don't try to have it doing too much different tasks #oopsla09 ※ @
23:17 @e_modeling_jp: 今年のOOPSLAが始まったようです。論よりtwitter => #oopsla09 ※ @
23:45 @sle10: RT @tuskan360 @afscrome I too plan to get a new phone before going to uni, but I can still wait for vodafone and Orange ※ @
23:45 @sle10: RT @afscrome @tuskan360 And probably the next gen iphone :D ※ @
23:45 @sle10: RT @tuskan360 @afscrome maybe :D I may well get one very soon after they come out on all networks, I don't know how long it will take be ... ※ @
23:45 @sle10: RT @afscrome Yea I've won a prize at Prizegiving. Boo I've got to get down to London to collect it next month. ※ @
23:45 @sle10: RT @afscrome Off to try and find Morisons. If I'm not back within 24 hours send out a rescue party! ※ @
23:48 @maximilien: Part of discussion #cloudcamp #cloudcampoopsla @oopsla09 on cloud platforms and how to reach the elusive common #cloud APIs ※ @

26 Oct, 2:26 @pgoodwin: Thanks to all who attended my Functional programming in OO tutorial at #oopsla09. ※ @
8:46 @guks: Доброе похмельное утро, твиттер!;) ※ @
- 8:48 @grammarware: @guks только после пятницы проснулся? ;) ※ @
  - 15:02 @guks: @grammarware ))) после вчера?)) ※ @
21:32 @grammarware: I'm seriously considering starting to use eMusic. Anyone got any experience to share and advice to give on that? Mostly interested in blues. ※ @
- 10:41 @frama_c: @grammarware I used it. Limited choice, but in what was available, there were quality recordings that I discovered. If you like exploring... ※ @
- 19:05 @LeonMoonen: @grammarware instead of eMusic, consider spotify - why waste your own disk space ;-) ※ @
  - 22:11 @grammarware: @LeonMoonen I'm already using @Spotify, thanks! They have a good ideology but lack most of the rare stuff that I mostly listen to. ※ @
  - 27 Oct, 14:19 @grammarware: @LeonMoonen besides, @Spotify now refuses to work with German customers at all (twitter.com ※ @
14:23 @JBezivin: "#Metadata #Modularization Using #Domain #Annotations" comp.lancs.ac.uk #OOPSLA #OOPSLA09 #ACoM.09 #SPLASH ※ @
15:10 @slimtebourbi: RT @JBezivin "#Metadata #Modularization Using #Domain #Annotations" comp.lancs.ac.uk #OOPSLA #OOPSLA09 #ACoM.09 #SPLASH ※ @
15:21 @jwgrenning: Workshop with the #oopsla educators symposium later today Teaching TDD and TDD in Teaching ※ @
- 20:09 @csterwa: @jwgrenning are you going to be doing a write-up on teaching TDD? that is a great topic for me. been doing it but grt to learn more #oopsla ※ @
15:45 @grammarware: Already got a Kernel panic message from my new Linux desktop: resolved the issue by picking an older kernel, but still somewhat disappointed ※ @
15:54 @sl4mmy: OH: Duck punching: if it doesn't quack like a duck, punch it until it does #dls #oopsla ※ @
15:55 @grammarware: Got in trouble for running Mozilla once on a uni server, it created a urlclassifier3.sqlite file that quickly went way over my quota. #i4cs ※ @
15:58 @institute4cs: RT @grammarware Got in trouble for running Mozilla once on a uni server, it created a urlclassifier3.sqlite file that quickly went way o ... ※ @
16:00 @scbs: RT: @pauloborba: Modularity assessment at ACoM.09, OOPSLA has again an excellent program comp.lancs.ac.uk ※ @
16:03 @bigballofmud: Ben Stephenson's school taught Pascal. His students knew it was a dead language, and felt like old-school Catholic seminarians. #oopsla ※ @
16:10 @chrisflach: Educator's symposium at OOPSLA 2009 ※ @
16:11 @jebaldwin: OOPSLA talk is over! ※ @
- 16:15 @matthias_k: Great job! Really liked it: RT @jebaldwin OOPSLA talk is over! ※ @
16:32 @dongwoo: Alan Kay's keynote at OOPSLA 1997 video.google.com ※ @
16:41 @jwgrenning: #oopsla what wrong with Univ CS? Bob Biddle: students don't have the love for programming, for the program. ※ @
16:52 @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
16:53 @jwgrenning: #oopsla Stroustrup: programming is like having sex, sometimes there is concrete output, but that's not why we do it. ※ @
16:53 @fgrehm: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
16:54 @Vaguery: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
16:54 @brianbuttonxp: RT @jwgrenning: #oopsla Stroustrup: programming is like having sex, sometimes there is concrete output, but that's not why we do it. ※ @
16:55 @maximilien: RT @bigballofmud Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
16:57 @bigballofmud: More reasons programming is like sex. So few have objective knowledge of ur work that everyone fancies themselves an expert. #oopsla ※ @
16:57 @JBezivin: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrup: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
17:00 @maximilien: #Mython.org a so called super-glue language with quotation code that inject into hosting lang and gets compiled-time optimized.. #oopsla ※ @
17:03 @bigballofmud: James Grenning: It's hard to teach humility and love. #oopsla ※ @
17:04 @JBezivin: RT @jwgrenning: C++ Cool Bjarne Stroustrup is here at the #oopsla educators symposium. Interest: teaching beginning programmers ※ @
17:05 @mtov: RT @pauloborba: Modularity assessment at ACoM.09, OOPSLA has again an excellent program comp.lancs.ac.uk. ※ @
17:06 @aslamkhn: RT @bigballofmud: programming is like sex. So few have objective knowledge of ur work that everyone fancies themselves an expert. #oopsla ※ @
17:07 @aslamkhn: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
17:10 @jwgrenning: #oopsla We can't expect CS grads to be super programmers. we should expect them to know they have more to learn and love programming ※ @
17:10 @bigballofmud: Ademar Aguiar is describing how they actual run 100 student programming projects at the University of Porto #oopsla #edusym ※ @
17:10 @jwgrenning: #oopsla but its hard to teach humility and love. ※ @
17:11 @rferraz: RT @thiago_silva: oopsla there. me here. idem #mimimi #euqueria ※ @
17:13 @jwgrenning: Stroustrup must have structure, skills, practices. Love is not enough #oopsla ※ @
17:14 @maximilien: Having a wonderful gumbo lunch with other #oopsla committee members. Yummy :) ※ @
17:15 @jwgrenning: Burt Fruedenberg suggests to get students involved in open source. they need learn to read code before they can learn to write code #oopsla ※ @
17:16 @christensena: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
17:44 @gpollice: OOPSLA. Spent morning listening to ideas on evaluating languages and tools. Some nuggets in there. And some lies damned lies & statistics. ※ @
18:13 @pmd06c: about to head into the Doctoral Symposium @OOPSLA in Disney. Excited to get feedback on the dissertation :-) ※ @
18:27 @jivy: To Orlando! #oopsla ※ @
18:31 @gpollice: OOPSLA tutorial on Erlang Programming about to begin. Could be fun. It's amazing how many people I know here! A sign of my longevity. ※ @
18:47 @peterfriese: In the Erlang tutorial. #oopsla Need to download and compile Erlang before using it on my Mac :-) #nerd+ ※ @
18:49 @maximilien: Listening to a talk at #dls #oopsla on Javascript arrows (generalization of monads) which eases event driven programming (eg state machinas) ※ @
18:59 @sl4mmy: Context-oriented software transactional memory in Common Lisp #dynamiclanguagesymposium #oopsla ※ @
19:06 @HelenaHjerten: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
19:20 @ponderings: Really enjoying the #oopsla tweets today. Thank you! ※ @
19:21 @sl4mmy: OH: half the software trans. memory community is giving up because they can't get performance, the other half is delusional #dls #oopsla ※ @
20:00 @jwgrenning: RT @bigballofmud: reasons programming is like sex. few have objective knowledge of ur work. everyone fancies themselves an expert. #oopsla ※ @
20:15 @csterwa: RT @jwgrenning: #oopsla Stroustrup: programming is like having sex, sometimes there is concrete output, but that's not why we do it. ※ @
20:17 @thiago_silva: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrup: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
20:48 @msuarz: sitting @ #OOPSLA listening to how to teach TDD by @jwgrenning ... cool stuff ※ @
20:57 @3dgiordano: RT @JBezivin: "#Metadata #Modularization Using #Domain #Annotations" comp.lancs.ac.uk #OOPSLA #OOPSLA09 #ACoM.09 #SPLASH ※ @
20:58 @maximilien: Hiearchical VMs for dynamic languages (ie VMs on top of other VMs) talk at #dls #oopsla. Reminds me it's turtle all the way down :) ※ @
21:06 @maximilien: #dls #oopsla talk on intermediary language for #ruby so that you can apply static analysis techniques to #ruby code, eg, type annotations ※ @
21:43 @maximilien: #dls #oopsla talk by @DaveUngar and @SamAdams of @IBMResearch on an exploratory research of running a dynamic lang on a 1000 cores machines ※ @
21:56 @woan: On my way back to #oopsla for poster session! ※ @
22:07 @natishalom: Finished a 2nd day in oopsla. Pleasently surprised from the event. Lots of inspiring discussions with really smart people. ※ @
22:09 @grammarware: Having to work temp. on an old machine, learned the hard way that heavily ajax-ed websites like @dailyburn make old browsers crash liek whoa ※ @
22:42 @grammarware: A busy weekend, I forgot to mention it was a fun Friday with Zapfkultur festival. Visited about 10 places with some friends, had lots of fun ※ @
22:45 @grammarware: The only tweeting place I know, @irishpubkoblenz, had Stalking horse w/80s covers. The most surprising one was Druckluftkammer with Fremitus ※ @
22:46 @onyame: twitpic.com - Poster reception #oopsla ※ @
22:49 @chrisbranch: Watching Alan Kay's OOPSLA keynote video.google.co.uk Great for those who love to understand computer languages from the great man himself ※ @
23:09 @martinjandrews: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla (via @bigballofmud) ※ @
23:13 @FrancescoC: Great Erlang tutorial at #OOPSLA in Orlando. Am now finding my way out of the Disney complex.... I was not expecting a city within a city. ※ @
- 23:16 @wmacgyver: @FrancescoC #erlang at OOPSLA? That's like having java at CUFP :) ※ @

27 Oct, 0:30 @woan: Cool posters at #oopsla include research, wikisym and workshop findings. ※ @
0:32 @woan: Architects vs agilists #oopsla how about metaphor as architecture. ※ @
0:33 @woan: Lots of aspects and annotations on #oopsla posters this year. ※ @
0:39 @brandonleiran: RT @jwgrenning: "#oopsla Stroustrup: programming is like having sex, sometimes there is concrete output, but that's not why we do it." ※ @
1:07 @MachinesAreUs: First day accomplished. OOPSLA is the very best conference I've been so far =) ※ @
1:26 @tsudonymn: Good poster session. Lots of good conversation on languages, staic v dynamic, etc. Many good posters I won't remember shortly. #oopsla ※ @
2:43 @skilpat: This hotel has terrible food. #oopsla ※ @
3:01 @msuarz: +1 RT @skilpat: This hotel has terrible food. #oopsla ※ @
3:28 @woan: Oh Boy, Barbara Liskov's Turing Lecture to kickoff #oopsla tomorrow! Originator of a SOLID principle, how cool is that? ※ @
3:42 @aslamkhn: Really fun day at the #ACoM workshop today. Lots of relevance in their research for industrial applications. #oopsla ※ @
4:17 @svrc: Always amazed at the quality of people I get to meet at OOPSLA. ※ @
4:36 @Straxus: At OOPSLA this week - have barely recovered from SpringOne last week, but the week already holds a lot of promise for great @InfoQ content! ※ @
4:44 @michaelkeeling: Poster from the OOPSLA workshop turned out great. Full writeup on my main contribution soon. mysite.verizon.net ※ @
5:21 @mhevery: Presenting <angular/> tomorow morning at 8:30 at OOPSLA. ※ @
7:10 @nadyne: after all the years of being asked at #oopsla when @mrichmon and I were going to get married, it's weird to not be there the year we did #fb ※ @
8:42 @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
- 21:28 @gucs: RT @turingbook 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。 dabr.nl ※ @
8:45 @chloerei: 卧槽 RT: @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
8:45 @googollee: RT @turingbook 这个好玩的好像还没有人推,我来吧。C++他爸BS说(是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的?):编程和干那事儿一样,有时候会产生些具体的成果,但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
8:50 @kris_xu: Resending @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
8:53 @LiGhtory: RT @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
8:58 @longshanksmo: RT @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl // 我拜 ※ @
8:58 @qcthreestones: RT: @lightory: RT @turingbook: 这个好玩的好像还没有人推，我来吧。C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
21:08 @dongmyo: RT @bigballofmud: Bjarne Stroustrop: Programming is like sex. Sometimes it produces concrete results, but that's not why we do it. #oopsla ※ @
21:17 @heseywang: ／／这个是某年的诺贝尔物理学奖得主说的 RT @googollee: RT @turingbook 这个好玩的好像还没有人推,我来吧。C++他爸BS说(是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的?):编程和干那事儿一样,有时候会产生些具体的成果,但那不是我们干这事的原因。 ※ @
21:51 @grammarware: Never thought I could take good care of a plant, but now the hibiscus I got from @notquiteabba's family for my birthday, is blooming again! ※ @
21:51 @grammarware: twitpic.com - proofpic regarding the previous twit. ※ @
11:28 @hengdm: RT @turingbook: C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
11:59 @zef: OOPSLA people, please use #oopsla09 instead of #oopsla, as the Asians seem to have taken over that one. ※ @
12:06 @agile_teams: enjoyed a great workshop on Human Aspects Of #Software #Engineering - writeup pending; Liskov + full #oopsla09 today! ※ @
12:57 @jwgrenning: Hoping to see launch soon from #oopsla ※ @
13:16 @woan: #oopsla keynote moved to fantasia G ※ @
13:27 @woan: no power at tables in #oopsla poster room this year, bring out the MacBook Pros! ※ @
13:27 @skilpat: Barbara Liskov keynote imminent. Commence wisdom transfer. #oopsla ※ @
13:30 @abhinay: At the OOPSLA keynote. I thought the keynote happens on the first day? Anyway this is a good conference so far #oopsla09 ※ @
13:39 @bigballofmud: The Turing Award is nice and all, but it's not rocket science. A number of #oopsla denizens are out at the Cape for the Ares I-X launch. ※ @
13:39 @bigballofmud: Official Kick-off at #oopsla. Here we are now. Entertain us. ※ @
13:40 @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: Attendance: 74% US, 5% Brazil, Germany and Canada, 4% UK and Swizzeland! Probably the highest brazilian attendance ever ;-) ※ @
13:41 @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: Research track: 144 submissions, 25 accepted ※ @
13:41 @jwgrenning: Keynote at #oopsla by Barbara Liskov. getting ACM Turing award. ※ @
13:43 @msuarz: Barbara lLskov @ #OOPSLA ※ @
13:43 @jwgrenning: RT @bigballofmud: The Turing Award is nice and all, but not rocket science. A number of #oopsla s are out at the Cape for the Ares launch. ※ @
13:43 @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: Keynote#1: The Power of Abstraction, Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org ※ @
13:43 @bigballofmud: Liskov: How I invented the idea of data abstraction. #oopsla ※ @
13:44 @msuarz: Barbara Liskov @ #OOPSLA ※ @
13:46 @jwgrenning: Liskov concerned about software crisis in 1970 #oopsla ※ @
13:48 @jwgrenning: Liskov #oopsla under buy expensive hardware, make up for it in software | IMO attitude still alive in embedded not always justified ※ @
13:49 @bigballofmud: Liskov: Those who do not remember the past are doomed to reimplement it. #oopsla ※ @
13:49 @jwgrenning: Liskov #oopsla 1968 Dijkstra goto harmful. Many people were opposed to the idea. ※ @
13:51 @bigballofmud: Liskov recalls that the GOTO era was the first golden age of Spaghetti Code #oopsla ※ @
13:51 @jwgrenning: Liskov #oopsla Reasone 1: conservatism: we do it this way. | nothing new to learn? ※ @
13:52 @jwgrenning: Liskov #oopsla #2 effeciency | IMO still worried about too much. especially in embedded ※ @
13:52 @jwgrenning: Liskov #oopsla missed 3rd reason ※ @
13:53 @jwgrenning: Liskov is giving us a history lesson. Interesting #oopsla ※ @
13:54 @woan: Goto considered harmful published in 1968 cs.utexas.edu #oopsla ※ @
13:55 @jwgrenning: Liskov on Parnas: make modules small with few interconnections. | have you ever heard that before? #oopsla ※ @
13:56 @bigballofmud: Richard Gabriel displays uncommon chivalry and grace as he opens a thirsty Barbara Liskov's water bottle. #oopsla ※ @
13:57 @EelcoVisser: Liskov Turing Award Lecture: "Students are not aware of history of computer science" #oopsla09 ※ @
13:58 @jwgrenning: Liskov 1972 dreaming up abstract data types #oopsla ※ @
14:01 @bigballofmud: Liskov feels that, in hindsight, extensible languages were a terrible idea. ... Programs should be easy to read, not easy to write. #oopsla ※ @
14:01 @jwgrenning: Liskov Creating programs that are easy to read is more important than easy to write. In early 70's it was the other way around. #oopsla ※ @
14:02 @EelcoVisser: Liskov: "Extensible languages a terrible idea; it is more important that programs are easy to read than easy to write" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
14:03 @bigballofmud: Liskov's Turing lecture is built around a syllabus, a playlist for a programming language design golden-oldies station... #oopsla ※ @
14:05 @jwgrenning: Liskov Global variable considered harmful 1973. | Nothing is new is it? #oopsla ※ @
14:07 @jwgrenning: Liskov ADTs described in 73. suggest clusters and protection + polymorphism. #oopsla ※ @
14:08 @drunkcod: RT @bigballofmud: Liskov: Those who do not remember the past are doomed to reimplement it. #oopsla ※ @
14:09 @jwgrenning: Liskov Why prog lang: Communicate between programmers, do ADTs work, precise definition, is performance adequate #oopsla ※ @
14:09 @EelcoVisser: Liskov: "Language design = interface design" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
14:10 @pauloborba: RT @scbs #OOPSLA.2009: Attendance: 74% US, 5% Brazil, Germany and Canada, 4% UK and Swizzeland! Probably the highest brazilian attendance.. ※ @
14:11 @mfeathers: Wishing I was hearing Barbara Liskov give her Turing Award acceptance speech at #oopsla :-( ※ @
- 14:12 @jwgrenning: @mfeathers I'll keep you posted #oopsla ※ @
14:11 @woan: #oopsla Little Black Book of programming? portal.acm.org ※ @
14:11 @bigballofmud: I must confess I feel an odd sense of Lese Majeste tweeting a Turing Lecture. #oopsla ※ @
14:12 @delphinocons: RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov Turing Award Lecture: "Students are not aware of history of computer science" #oopsla09 ※ @
14:15 @bigballofmud: Liskov is giving us an overview of CLU clusters. Spinning her own material now. #oopsla ※ @
14:15 @jwgrenning: Liskov CLUE language. defined clusters with a "header" | hmmmm roots of C? or coincidence? #oopsla ※ @
14:19 @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
14:19 @jwgrenning: Correction: CLU language not CLUE #oopsla ※ @
14:19 @maximilien: Listening to @BarbaraLiskov of #MIT give her Turing award talk on abstract data types at #oopsla ※ @
14:22 @bigballofmud: Liskov on handling the "impossible": acknowledge that failure is possible. #oopsla ※ @
14:22 @jwgrenning: Liskov Best not to complicate abstractions. Stay with the simplest possible #oopsla ※ @
14:23 @bigballofmud: Liskov has gotten around to Iterators. CLU's greatest hit, in my ever so humble opinion. #oopsla ※ @
14:23 @fbahr: Feed of the Day: @BigBallOfMud live tweeting Barbara Liskov's #OOPSLA keynote (repeat of her 2008 #ACM #Turing Lecture) … ※ @
14:24 @jwgrenning: Liskov Iterators invented on an airplane 1975 #oopsla ※ @
14:25 @EelcoVisser: CLU introduced iterator definitions with yield; limited form of co-routines #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
14:25 @bigballofmud: Liskov: Iterator intellectual paternity ascribed to Russ Atkinson. #oopsla ※ @
14:25 @blogCACM: Ajith Ranabahu blogs from OOPSLA abt workshops on cloud computing, including definitions, modeling, design, licensing, cacm.acm.org ※ @
14:25 @jwgrenning: RT @bigballofmud: Liskov: Iterator intellectual paternity ascribed to Russ Atkinson. #oopsla ※ @
14:26 @csterwa: RT @jwgrenning: Liskov Global variable considered harmful 1973. | Nothing is new is it? #oopsla ※ @
14:27 @dimsumthinking: Wishing I was hearing Barbara Liskov give her Turing Award acceptance speech at #oopsla (@mfeathers) Hope they'll record and podcast it. ※ @
14:27 @jwgrenning: Liskov After CLU... at #oopsla 1987 sees confusion about how inheritance is being used. Impl inheritance violates encapsulation ※ @
14:28 @Straxus: Rebecca Liskov: To be blunt, inheritance is just not that interesting #oopsla ※ @
14:28 @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: "Inheritance is not that interesting. It is not a big deal doing in another way!", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org ※ @
14:29 @bigballofmud: Liskov recalls that inheritance was used 4 interface and implementation, still claims implementation use violates encapsulation #oopsla ※ @
14:29 @jwgrenning: Liskov Substitution Principle surprised 10 years later that "LSP" was being discussed #oopsla ※ @
14:30 @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: "Inheritance violates encapsulation", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org ※ @
14:30 @EelcoVisser: Liskov Substitution Principle: reaction to confusion about inheritance in OO in 1987 #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
14:31 @EelcoVisser: Lisvov: "What's Next? Modulariity based on abstraction is the way things are done" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
14:31 @jwgrenning: Liskov Some SW pundit said re her Turing award: "What did she get that prize for, everybody knows this" #oopsla ※ @
14:31 @dimsumthinking: Disney World, OOPSLA, and Barbara Liskov and I'm not there. So bummed. Next year it's in Reno. I've only been there for SIGCSE. ※ @
14:31 @bigballofmud: Liskov: we live in an age when any Joe Blow can think he can program. #oopsla ※ @
14:33 @jwgrenning: Liskov problems on horizon: massively parallel computers. #oopsla ※ @
14:34 @bigballofmud: Liskov is skeptical about massive parallelism, but thinks cloud/map-reduce/Internet-as-computer might have legs #oopsla ※ @
14:34 @jwgrenning: Liskov problems on horizon: Internet computing (the cloud). More research left to do. Thank you for the history lesson. #oopsla ※ @
14:35 @Straxus: Barbara Liskov's keynote just finished, was excellent - Q&A now at #oopsla ※ @
14:36 @elehack: Very good talk from Liskov at #wikisym/#oopsla ※ @
14:37 @zef: RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov: Student: "Why did she get the Turing award? Everyone knows that stuff!" #oopsla09 ※ @
14:39 @berndschiffer: Liskov: extensible languages were a terrible idea. ... Programs should be easy to read, not easy to write. #oopsla (via @bigballofmud) ※ @
14:39 @jwgrenning: Liskov someone offered: "thank you for getting the Turing award" | agreed #oopsla ※ @
14:40 @jwgrenning: Liskov claims to not be a theoretical person. more concerned with what programmers need. #oopsla ※ @
14:43 @MachinesAreUs: RT @pragkirk:"It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
14:44 @jwgrenning: launch now at 9:49am ET #oopsla ※ @
14:45 @peterfriese: RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla09 ※ @
14:45 @Kenyth: #oopsla ※ @
14:46 @nwire: RT @peterfriese:RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla09 << So true! ※ @
14:47 @jwgrenning: Liskov Keep programs in standard dialect for readability. She thinks people do not care enough about readability | I agree #oopsla ※ @
14:48 @maximilien: Liskov @oopsla keynote: I am not a theory person... I am more focused on building systems and making them useful ※ @
14:50 @jwgrenning: Liskov Mathematician that got into programming accidentally. | Accidentally! Me too, actually trying to avoid it for me :-) #oopsla ※ @
14:53 @kdmsnr: oopslaやってんの？ ※ @
14:53 @woan: Liskov questions aspects effect on code readability #oopsla ※ @
14:54 @patrickdlogan: RT @bigballofmud: Liskov has gotten to Iterators. CLU's greatest hit. #oopsla [yes! another language feature lost in translation: recursive] ※ @
14:54 @agile_teams: intro at #oopsla09 (14% women): "the gender gap is still there - we need to fix that" - YES ※ @
14:55 @woan: CLU had mutable and immutable types, fascinating #oopsla ※ @
14:57 @woan: software craftsmanship in introductory CS classes? teach SOLID? #oopsla ※ @
14:59 @woan: theory or practicality balance in CS classes soph/junior year #oopsla ※ @
15:00 @jwgrenning: Liskov Stressing again that the way the program looks is really important #oopsla ※ @
15:00 @woan: how many program just for themselves? locally scoped syntactic extensions #oopsla ※ @
15:00 @docfx: RT @EelcoVisser Liskov: "Aspect oriented programming worries me, in analogy to Dijkstra's harmful gotos" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
15:01 @jwgrenning: Liskov Ralph Johnson will assign her paper to next semester's students. #oopsla ※ @
15:01 @agile_teams: Liskov: principle of abstraction-based modularity is more honored in the breach - "we have a real education problem" #oopsla09 ※ @
15:02 @pauloborba: The power of abstraction, Liskov at OOPSLA, great talk reinforcing the importance of history and influential papers oopsla.org ※ @
15:02 @carlosfigueroa: RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
15:03 @jwgrenning: Liskov Great talk and Q&A. Liskov is a well spoken and humble lady. Thank you #oopsla ※ @
15:04 @jwgrenning: Reporter James Grenning, signing off for now #oopsla ※ @
15:06 @kdmsnr: RT @msuarz: Liskov likes inheritance to build types hierarchies ... dislikes inheritance to reuse implementation #oopsla ※ @
15:07 @carlosfigueroa: RT @jwgrenning: Liskov Best not to complicate abstractions. Stay with the simplest possible #oopsla ※ @
15:13 @thiago_silva: #OOPSLA "Inheritance is not that interesting. It is not a big deal doing in another way!", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org (via @scbs) ※ @
15:16 @omargomez: RT @peterfriese: RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla09 ※ @
15:16 @leopoldomt: RT @scbs: #OOPSLA09: "Inheritance is not that interesting. It is not a big deal doing in another way!", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org ※ @
15:16 @thiago_silva: #OOPSLA "Inheritance violates encapsulation", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org (via @scbs) ※ @
15:17 @omargomez: RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov: Student: "Why did she get the Turing award? Everyone knows that stuff!" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
15:20 @thiago_silva: Liskov likes inheritance to build types hierarchies ... dislikes inheritance to reuse implementation #oopsla (via @msuarz) ※ @
15:20 @cpmurphy: BTW, Liskov is all about systems these days, so bit of a disconnect with prog lang people at #oopsla09 ※ @
15:22 @thiago_silva: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla (via @pragkirk) ※ @
15:23 @buurd: RT @pragkirk "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
15:23 @thiago_silva: Liskov: "Aspect oriented programming worries me, in analogy to Dijkstra's harmful gotos" #oopsla09 #oopsla (via @EelcoVisser) ※ @
15:24 @woan: #oopsla research program moved to ballroom B of ballrooms of the Americas ※ @
15:30 @williebegoode: OOPSLA is over for me this year. Great conference; met interesting folks, and I'm getting ready for the OOPSLA conference next year in Reno. ※ @
15:33 @johndcook: RT @omargomez et al: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla09 ※ @
15:37 @omargomez: Judging by twitter activity, Liskov's talk at oopsla was a huge success. Have to be there soon. ※ @
15:39 @jwgrenning: personally thanked Barbara for LSP. #oopsla ※ @
15:40 @jwgrenning: Mentioned @unclebobmartin, my colleague and friend of almost 30 yrs is (at least in part) responsible for popularizing LSP. #oopsla ※ @
15:40 @diego_tc: RT @scbs: #OOPSLA09: Attendance: 74% US, 5% Brazil, Germany and Canada, 4% UK and Swizzeland! Probably the highest brazilian attendance ever ※ @
15:41 @matthias_k: Back in good old Germany from #oopsla and @mashups09 Trip was okay, but it's kinda cold here ;-) ※ @
15:41 @thiago_silva: Liskov: Those who do not remember the past are doomed to reimplement it. #oopsla (via @bigballofmud) ※ @
15:46 @pragkirk: Prepping for agile architecture tutorial this afternoon at #oopsla. ※ @
15:51 @JBezivin: RT @docfx @EelcoVisser Liskov: "Aspect oriented programming worries me, in analogy to Dijkstra's harmful gotos" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
15:54 @JBezivin: RT @thiago_silva #OOPSLA #OOPSLA09 "Inheritance is not that interesting", B. Liskov (via @scbs) ※ @
15:55 @etadeu: RT @bigballofmud Liskov recalls that the GOTO era was the *FIRST* golden age of Spaghetti Code #oopsla | Emphasis to FIRST is mine ※ @
15:56 @jediwhale: you can substitute any spelling ...RT @msuarz: Barbara lLskov @ #OOPSLA ※ @
15:56 @JBezivin: RT @kdmsnr @msuarz: Liskov likes inheritance to build types hierarchies ... dislikes inheritance to reuse implementation #oopsla #oopsla09 ※ @
15:58 @bigballofmud: Yeah, @etadeu good eye. I was wondering whether anyone would catch that :-) #oopsla ※ @
15:59 @woan: flapjax-Lang.org at oopsla pretty cool reactive programming for ajax ※ @
16:01 @JBezivin: RT @delphinocons @EelcoVisser: Liskov Turing Award Lecture: "Students are not aware of history of computer science" #oopsla09 ※ @
16:03 @delphinocons: She invented it? ;-) RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov: Student: "Why did she get the Turing award? Everyone knows that stuff!" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
16:04 @bigballofmud: I was approached by a doe-eyed youngster this morning who asked me in halting English "Are you the man who invented C++"? #oopsla ※ @
16:08 @bigballofmud: I showed him a mugshot of the person he was looking for and told him "be sure to talk to him, he's a nice guy". #oopsla ※ @
16:09 @thelliez: RT @woan: flapjax-Lang.org at oopsla pretty cool reactive programming for ajax ※ @
16:10 @MachinesAreUs: Liskov´s talk at #oopsla09 was a recap of her work. Regarding current programming practice, said : "we have a serious education problem". ※ @
16:11 @maximilien: #onward @oopsla: watching a talk delivered as video on slides about visual programming... Cute meta though I'd rather see a live presenter ※ @
16:20 @tsudonymn: Is there a reason are code shouldn't have/strive for both attributes? Be both easy to read and easy to write? #oopsla #liskov ※ @
16:25 @dbrock: Liskov claims inheritance of implementation violates encapsulation. Agree, but good to hear it spelled out. (via @bigballofmud) #oopsla ※ @
16:31 @grammarware: Dependency hell is still a big issue in the Linux world. E.g., can't scrobble music because last.fm needs Qt4 which can't work w/Python 2.6! ※ @
16:34 @pauloborba: RT @aslamkhn Really fun day at the #ACoM workshop today. Lots of relevance in their research for industrial applications. #oopsla ※ @
16:38 @maximilien: #onward #oopsla talk by Jonathan Edward of #MIT on co-actions which can be applied to remove the Cs (controllers and callbacks) in MVC arch ※ @
16:40 @will_sargent: RT @bigballofmud Liskov feels that extensible languages were a terrible idea. Programs should be easy to read, not easy to write. #oopsla ※ @
16:52 @EelcoVisser: Pi pattern language supports full syntactic extensibility #onward #oopsla09 ※ @
16:57 @henriquerebelo: The power of abstraction, Liskov at OOPSLA, great talk reinforcing the importance of history and influential papers oopsla.org ※ @
16:57 @henriquerebelo: RT: @scbs: #OOPSLA.2009: "Inheritance violates encapsulation", Barbara Liskov, oopsla.org ※ @
17:09 @xgerman: RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
17:09 @EelcoVisser: Pi pattern language: another take on extensible languages pi-programming.org #oopsla09 #onward ※ @
17:11 @woan: correction there are a couple tables in the poster room with power, look for holes in the floor #oopsla ※ @
17:18 @tvdstorm: RT @EelcoVisser Pi pattern language: another take on extensible languages pi-programming.org #oopsla09 #onward ※ @
17:19 @grammarware: RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov: "Aspect oriented programming worries me, in analogy to Dijkstra's harmful gotos" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
17:30 @tvdstorm: Correction: RT @(broken link) #oopsla09 ※ @
17:41 @maximilien: RT @bigballofmud Liskov: Those who do not remember the past are doomed to reimplement it. #oopsla ※ @
17:48 @irishpubkoblenz: Shay is back, analysed the french team.... Getting ready for the BIG HALLOWEEN PARTY AND KARAOKE TOMORROW ※ @
- 30 Oct, 3:05 @grammarware: @irishpubkoblenz will you have live music this Saturday? ※ @
17:49 @wiradikusuma: RT @pragkirk "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
17:52 @nealrichter: RT @omargomez et al: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla09 (vai @JohnDCook) ※ @
17:59 @bigballofmud: RT @dbrock: BL on implementation inheritance: Agree, but good to hear it spelled out. #oopsla Actually, I find this position too extreme. ※ @
18:00 @anadgouda: I wish I was at the OOPSLA. ※ @
18:01 @dastels: Ditto :( RT @mfeathers: Wishing I was hearing Barbara Liskov give her Turing Award acceptance speech at #oopsla :-( ※ @
18:19 @bigballofmud: Liskov evidently claimed that encapsulation was not possible in Smalltalk. Ralph Johnson promptly and properly demurred. #oopsla ※ @
18:30 @bigballofmud: Smalltalkers are able to resist the impulse to resolve Oedipal urges by touching parent's private data w/o formal prohibitions #oopsla ※ @
18:34 @bigballofmud: I find I have to deprogram some students too rigidly trained in encapsulation. It becomes a fetish, and impedes object collaboration #oopsla ※ @
18:34 @thelliez: @oopsla starting afternoon session Innovations with Onward! ※ @
18:37 @niclasnilsson: Me too, & missing the OOPSLA ppl. RT @mfeathers: Wishing I was hearing Barbara Liskov give her Turing Award acceptance speech at #oopsla :-( ※ @
- 19:58 @aslamkhn: @niclasnilsson @mfeathers Liskov : We have not solved the software crisis. Writing code does not mean you know how to write code. #oopsla ※ @
18:38 @coreyhaines: Double! RT @dastels: Ditto :( RT @mfeathers: Wishing I was hearing Barbara Liskov give her Turing Award acceptance speech at #oopsla :-( ※ @
- 18:56 @jwgrenning: @coreyhaines checkout my coverage at #oopsla ※ @
  - 19:00 @coreyhaines: @jwgrenning link? ※ @
    - 19:06 @jwgrenning: @coreyhaines tag #oopsla and look for series of tweets from me and others startng about 830 EST ※ @
18:41 @kevarh: #oopsla poster presentation went great last night, great talk this morning on csci history by Barbara Liskov ※ @
18:47 @maximilien: Tom Malone of #MIT keynote at #onward #oopsla on collective intelligence ... Cited #google, #wikipedia, #linux, as modern examples ※ @
18:48 @wilfredspringer: Listening to #BrionVibber talking about #CollectiveIntelligence at #oopsla ※ @
18:58 @woan: #oopsla motivations: money, love, glory ※ @
19:01 @planet_lang: [Smalltalk] OOPSLA '09: Dynamic Languages Symposium (DLS): There were three interesting talks that I atte.. softwareengineering.vazexqi.com ※ @
19:06 @MachinesAreUs: I agree with K. Knoernshild: Key to managing architectural complexity is recognizing the areas that really need flexibility. #oopsla09 ※ @
19:10 @bigballofmud: Late for Malone's Onward! talk. Genes? These sound like memes. #oopsla ※ @
19:12 @bigballofmud: It's hard to hear the term "harness the collective intelligence of 1000s" and not think of 20 mule team Borax. Malone/#oopsla ※ @
19:14 @MachinesAreUs: Well... anyone can see how this talk is leading to OSGi. #oopsla09 ※ @
19:27 @thiago_silva: RT @JBezivin @delphinocons @EelcoVisser: Liskov Turing Award Lecture: "Students are not aware of history of computer science" #oopsla09 ※ @
19:33 @maximilien: Malone talk #onward #oopsla on collective intelligence a bit of a rehash of Wisdom of Crowd thesis but with a framework to better understand ※ @
19:36 @EelcoVisser: Malone: mechanical turk: programs that call humans as a subroutine #oopsla09 ※ @
19:39 @woan: #oopsla wireless not handing out addreses anymore ※ @
19:40 @hjhappel: Tom Malone: money, love and glory are the core motivators for crowds #wikisym #oopsla ※ @
19:41 @bigballofmud: Malones is getting to the Borg part. #oopsla ※ @
19:43 @bigballofmud: The memepool has been collective at least since the birth of languages. Languages are already living breathing memetic entities #oopsla ※ @
19:44 @bigballofmud: His revolution happened at leat 40,000 years ago. Malone/#oopsla ※ @
19:45 @thelliez: Attending Malone talk... I would like to know why these systems are emerging. #oopsla ※ @
19:45 @scbs: #OOPSLA09 Keynote#2: Collective Intelligence, Thomas W. Malone #Onward! keynote, actually)oopsla.org ( ※ @
19:46 @frama_c: Tell me about it! RT @grammarware Dependency hell still a big issue in Linux world. E.g., last.fm needs Qt4 which can't work w/Python 2.6! ※ @
19:47 @scbs: #OOPSLA09 MIT Center for Collective Intelligence cci.mit.edu ※ @
19:48 @bigballofmud: Trying to decide if Tom Malone's "gene" device is too glib. There ARE two bits of information in his 4 dimensions, but too shallow? #oopsla ※ @
19:51 @softmodeling: RT @grammarware: RT @EelcoVisser: Liskov: "Aspect oriented programming worries me, in analogy to Dijkstra's harmful gotos" #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
19:52 @EelcoVisser: Phil Wadler: "Can we do programming language design using collective intelligence?" #oopsla09 ※ @
19:53 @MachinesAreUs: Kirk talk it's all ok but I should have signed 4 Eric Evans' DDD. This is a first principles introduction to devel on OSGi. #oopsla09 ※ @
19:54 @softmodeling: "the number of useful aspects is not only finite, but also fairly small.” - F. steimann in his #OOPSLA'06 paper ※ @
19:54 @bigballofmud: Malone admits he went with the less accurate "gene" rather than meme or pattern patterns cuz it gets better buzz. #oopsla ※ @
19:57 @bigballofmud: Thinking that the only purpose of business is to make money is a serious mistake. Tom Malone #oopsla ※ @
19:59 @aslamkhn: Liskov keynote: we have programming languages so programmers can communicate. Readability is more important #oopsla ※ @
20:00 @aslamkhn: Liskov keynote: Stick with the simplest abstraction you can think of. #oopsla ※ @
20:00 @jeffpatton: Missing the community at #oopsla. How is the conference going? Is it time to return? ※ @
20:00 @bigballofmud: Malone accurately suspected that for some his priorities were suspect because he is from a B-school, and sought to dispel that #oopsla ※ @
20:02 @aslamkhn: Liskov keynote: exception handling strategies: accurate interfaces and avoid useless code. #oopsla ※ @
- 20:04 @jancowol: @aslamkhn Do you know if the keynote & sessions will be made available for download? #oopsla. ※ @
20:04 @aslamkhn: Amazed how Liskov made early limiting decisions to avoid distractions. Ignoring concurrency probably helped her focus more on ADTs #oopsla ※ @
20:06 @aslamkhn: Liskov keynote: CLU goals? Expressive, ease of use, simplicity, performance ... in 1974!!! If only enterprise devs think like that. #oopsla ※ @
20:11 @ikangai: new #ikangai blog post : ikangai @ OOPSLA ikangai.com ※ @
20:17 @KevlinHenney: s/OOPSLA/SPLASH/ cincomsmalltalk.com ※ @
20:19 @MachinesAreUs: Share with Modularity Patterns tutorial assistants. A recent OSGi survey techdistrict.kirkk.com #oopsla09 ※ @
20:23 @SQUIDwarrior: On break from my Real-Time Java tutorial. Much more complex then I had imagined! Glad I'm taking the class. #oopsla ※ @
20:25 @SQUIDwarrior: Interesting observation. So far, the dominant laptop appears to be Apple. The rest appear to be various flavors of Dells. #oopsla ※ @
20:33 @JBezivin: RT @KevlinHenney s/OOPSLA/SPLASH/ cincomsmalltalk.com Bye Bye "OOPSLA", Good Morning "SPLASH" ※ @
20:43 @scbs: The Knowledge Worker of the Future (#OOPSLA09 panel) oopsla.org ※ @
20:43 @bigballofmud: At the Future of Knowledge Work Panel. Cunningham, he was party to 2 innovations, Wiki and XP, both work cuz of collaborations. #oopsla ※ @
20:45 @JBezivin: RT @scbs #OOPSLA.2009: Research track: 144 submissions, 25 accepted ※ @
20:56 @JBezivin: Many conferences this week : #ese09 #sapteched09 #iod2009 #oopsla09 #ACoM09 #iswc2009 etc. Is there an index of Twittering confs? ※ @
20:58 @scbs: "In the future, making employees happy will be more important than making customers happy" Thomas Malone, #OOPSLA panel oopsla.org ※ @
20:58 @omargomez: RT @EelcoVisser: Malone: mechanical turk: programs that call humans as a subroutine #oopsla09 ※ @
21:00 @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham: Pure Knowledge arbitrageurs will no longer gain by hoarding as knowledge increasingly becomes a plentiful commodity #oopsla ※ @
21:02 @thiago_silva: Liskov: "Language design = interface design" #oopsla09 #oopsla (via @EelcoVisser) ※ @
21:03 @EelcoVisser: WebDSL demonstration coming up in Fantasia D at 4:15 PM #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
21:07 @peterfriese: RT @EelcoVisser: WebDSL demonstration coming up in Fantasia D at 4:15 PM #oopsla09 #oopsla << will be there in a minute ※ @
21:08 @bigballofmud: Bill Opyke observes that the bounty of leisure time that technology promised has gone to people w/the capital, and not the workers. #oopsla ※ @
21:08 @thiago_silva: RT @aslamkhn [etc] Liskov : We have not solved the software crisis. Writing code does not mean you know how to write code. #oopsla ※ @
21:09 @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham feels that much of the world is seeing things improve, and that the race to the bottom is felt most in the USA #oopsla ※ @
21:12 @scbs: "After some point [how much?] more money will not make you happier" Thomas Malone, #OOPSLA panel oopsla.org ※ @
21:13 @tsudonymn: , and not the workers. #oopsla ※ @
21:14 @patrickdlogan: RT @bigballofmud: Late for Malone's Onward! talk. #oopsla [My legs are getting weak knowing I missed a Tom Malone talk. Fan for 20+ years.] ※ @
21:14 @JBezivin: RT @wolf_gregor @JBezivin You can try eventtrack.info (Thx @peterfriese @fhe) ※ @
- 21:38 @peterfriese: @JBezivin eventtracker is giving me a mysql_num_rows(): for #oopsla09. Maybe they should have used #WebDSL? ※ @
21:17 @tsudonymn: from Future of Knowledge Work Panel: Knowledge workers dislike being bored. #oopsla ※ @
21:20 @eventtrack: New event started 'OOPSLA09' (broken link) ※ @
21:22 @scbs: RT @SQUIDwarrior: ... So far, the dominant laptop appears to be Apple. The rest appear to be various flavors of Dells. #oopsla ※ @
21:24 @YixiZhang: RT @turingbook: C++他爸BS说（是在正开着的 #oopsla 上说的？）：编程和干那事儿一样，有时候会产生些具体的成果，但那不是我们干这事的原因。dabr.nl ※ @
21:25 @bigballofmud: One of the panel guys has bought into the tablet vision, cuz of Star Trek. #oopsla ※ @
21:28 @MachinesAreUs: RT @tsudonymn:from Future of Knowledge Work Panel: Knowledge workers dislike being bored. #oopsla . Does any KW disagree? ※ @
21:37 @bigballofmud: Malone envisions neural implants, Ward envisions us all being uploaded into the cloud. Swing low sweet chariot. #oopsla ※ @
21:38 @johnzabroski: RT @softmodeling "the number of useful aspects is not only finite, but also fairly small.” - F. steimann in his #OOPSLA'06 paper ※ @
21:41 @johnzabroski: RT planet_lang [Smalltalk] OOPSLA '09: Dynamic Languages Symposium (DLS): There were three interesting talks that I... softwareengineering.vazexqi.com ※ @
21:41 @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham: any device with a display that you can't program is really a television. #oopsla ※ @
21:42 @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham: One of the mistakes that government has made was to think when communism failed, that capitalism had won. #oopsla ※ @
21:45 @woan: Issue by issue proxy democracy, grant proxy or vote yourself Tom Malone #oopsla ※ @
21:47 @johnzabroski: RT @bigballofmud Liskov feels that extensible languages were a terrible idea. Programs should be easy to read, not easy to write. #oopsla ※ @
21:47 @scbs: See what is happening at #oopsla in real-time at twitter.com ※ @
21:48 @tsudonymn: Panel question: (paraphrased) How do prospective employees show they are good collaborators in a reasonable format for both sides? #oopsla ※ @
21:48 @bigballofmud: Oh oh. Panelist think that twitterpatters are preening narcissists. #oopsla ※ @
21:49 @bigballofmud: Dude doesn't think we have figured out what twitter is for. #ooplsa ※ @
- 23:02 @tsudonymn: @bigballofmud chalks up 500 for the audience. #oopsla ※ @
21:50 @tsudonymn: Apparently we don't understand what twitter is for... Thoughts? #oopsla ※ @
21:53 @tsudonymn: #oopsla panel defeated already beleaguered laptop battery ※ @
21:54 @niclasnilsson: RT @KevlinHenney s/OOPSLA/SPLASH/ cincomsmalltalk.com ※ @
- 28 Oct, 2:36 @aslamkhn: @niclasnilsson @KevlinHenney The SPLA is the same as in OOPSLA. The SH is Software for Humanity. #oopsla #splash ※ @
22:03 @eijiadachi: RT @scbs: "In the future, making employees happy will B more important than making customers happy" T Malone, #OOPSLA oopsla.org ※ @
22:06 @tottinge: RT @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham: any device with a display that you can't program is really a television. #oopsla ※ @
22:14 @njbartlett: @pragkirk Sounds like your #oopsla tutorial was very useful (thx @MachinesAreUs for updates). Will you make slides etc available? ※ @
22:23 @SQUIDwarrior: This conference is making me understand just how much I DON'T understand. And that, they say, is a beginning. #oopsla ※ @
22:29 @woan: BOF time availability not well advertised at #oopsla only one on board ※ @
22:31 @woan: Wireless back at #oopsla maybe enough folk left for hotels ※ @
22:34 @JBezivin: RT @SQUIDwarrior: This conference is making me understand just how much I DON'T understand. And that, they say, is a beginning. #oopsla09 ※ @
22:54 @MachinesAreUs: TOOTS: OOPSLA Trivia Show. Un Jeopardy muy nerd =P #oopsla09 ※ @
23:12 @chrisflach: keynote oopsla de hoje foi a barbara liskov (ADTs, CLU e iterators, LSP - Liskov Subst. Principle) ※ @
23:13 @isagoksu: RT @pragkirk: "It's more important to make programs easier to read than to write." -Barbara Liskov #oopsla ※ @
23:15 @MachinesAreUs: What whimsical nickname was given to the OO version of COBOL? Java someone said =) #oopsla09 ※ @
23:21 @peterfriese: If you cannot remember what layer the meta-metamodel is on, count the number of Ms - it is M3. #oopsla09 ※ @
23:23 @EelcoVisser: WebDSL demo was fun with good discussions with the Flapjax team; next demo is on Wednesday at 10:15 in Fantasia D #oopsla09 #oopsla ※ @
23:30 @MachinesAreUs: GoF were convicted for crimes against computer science at a past OOPSLA event? LoL =) #oopsla09 ※ @
23:57 @msuarz: 5 hours tutorial with eric evans @ #oopsla ... life's good :) ※ @
23:59 @msuarz: the guy (evans) can really stretch the material ... n' still times fly ... #oopsla ※ @
23:59 @JBezivin: RT @peterfriese If you cannot remember what layer the metametamodel is on, count the number of Ms - it is M3. #oopsla09 ※ @

28 Oct, 0:00 @msuarz: evans mentioned something about playing with the model which seemed like a model spike ... #oopsla ※ @
0:16 @softmodeling: RT @peterfriese: If you cannot remember what layer the meta-metamodel is on, count the number of Ms - it is M3. #oopsla09 ※ @
0:36 @mtov: Following #oopsla, #oopsla09, #onward mainly by tweets from @EelcoVisser, @pauloborba, and @scbs. ※ @
0:38 @mtov: RT @pauloborba: Liskov at OOPSLA, great talk reinforcing the importance of history and influential papers oopsla.org ※ @
0:51 @nightshade427: RT @bigballofmud: Ward Cunningham: any device with a display that you can't program is really a television. #oopsla ※ @
1:00 @SQUIDwarrior: First day at #oopsla done. Physically and mentally exhausted. Time to relax with some Torchwood. :-) ※ @
1:11 @grammarware: It's more like "Deadline-Driven Development" in the universities. RT @yk2805: Date-Driven development: I like that term. ※ @
- 12:34 @yk2805: @grammarware I guess that is applicable to lots of companies as well :-). ※ @
1:15 @50storms: わかりきっていることとはいえ、メシがまずいのは悲しい。出歩くところもないからチョイスもない。ホテルからスペースマウンテンやシンデレラ城が見えてもなあ。 ※ @
- 1:23 @camlspotter: @50storms 今年の OOPSLA は舞浜でやっているのかとおもた。一時期通勤時にさんざんあそこのお客の世話になったので。 ※ @
1:25 @maximilien: Having drinks with #oopsla committee members and heading for dinner with Rob van Denberg and #onward keynote Tom Malone of #MIT at the Wave ※ @
2:07 @leopoldomt: indeed! RT @grammarware It's more like Deadline-Driven Development in the universities RT @yk2805 Date-Driven development: I like that term. ※ @
2:17 @woan: more #oopsla pictures uploaded to the flickr pool flickr.com ※ @
2:34 @aslamkhn: Amazed at the number of Brazilians at #oopsla. Am I the only South African? Hope not :-( ※ @
2:47 @nadyne: @bigballofmud - how does #oopsla attendance look this year? ※ @
5:56 @EelcoVisser: @peterfriese Hmm, should be doable idd (if it weren't for all german specification) (and the fact that I want to attend #oopsla09) ※ @
6:26 @Gretyl: OOPSLA time and the livin's easy. ※ @
6:26 @woan: woo hoo Jeanette Wing invited talk later this morning at #oopsla, time to sleep... ※ @
12:01 @mayron: Heading to OOPSLA today ※ @
12:16 @davenielsen: CloudCamp Orlando @OOPSLA was a surprise. Low reg. High turnout. Great discussions thx to @CA, @Gigaspaces, @SRI, @IBM, among others ※ @
12:16 @aslamkhn: Sitting at #oopsla and I just realised that my small problems are small because of the achievements of many courageous, forward thinkers. ※ @
12:31 @grammarware: JFYI @notquiteabba: on Nov 4 in the evening @markusvoelter will give a #DSL talk at Mannheim uni. Just saying… ;) majug.de ※ @
12:34 @grammarware: For @schegi: the twitterers I mostly meant when mentioned XText were @xtext itself and @peterfriese. @markusvoelter can also be included. ※ @
- 17:34 @xtext: @grammarware @schegi: @Xtext committers: @svenefftinge, @szarnekow, @jankoehnlein, @docfx, @peterfriese, @hbehrens,@dennis_huebner,@pschoenb ※ @
  - 29 Oct, 1:37 @grammarware: @xtext magnificient! Thanks a lot for such a comprehensive reaction! ※ @
    - 7:31 @xtext: @grammarware we're here to help with whatever it takes :-) ※ @
12:39 @grammarware: I think this is wonderful, thumbs up for @Schwarzenegger! techcrunch.com (via @TechCrunch) ※ @
12:50 @cincomsmalltalk: Reporting from OOPSLA - cincomsmalltalk.com #smalltalk ※ @
12:50 @jarober: Reporting from OOPSLA: cincomsmalltalk.com ※ @
12:53 @j_ham3: RT @grammarware: I think this is wonderful, thumbs up for @Schwarzenegger! techcrunch.com (via @TechCrunch) ※ @
13:04 @inkytonik: Nice summary of OOPSLA, first day highlights cincomsmalltalk.com #oopsla09 ※ @
13:17 @wilfredspringer: Not sure what it does, but the "Anti-Goldilocks Debugger" deserves a *huge* audience at #oopsla, even if it were for the name only ※ @
13:25 @aslamkhn: twitter demographic survey: If you are from an African country and at #oopsla?, tweet me your country name. Current results: S.Africa = 1. ※ @
- 13:49 @niclasnilsson: .@aslamkhn On opening of #oopsla, conf chair usually presents demographics. Not this year? ※ @
  - 15:56 @aslamkhn: @niclasnilsson Oh yes, demographics where presented. Brazil had enough representation to make the pie chart. Africa - not :-( #oopsla ※ @
13:33 @gpollice: OOPSLA note: Why do so many really smart people lack the ability to be civil to others they disagree with--insecurity perhaps? ※ @
13:33 @andersjanmyr: Report from #oopsla day 1, anders.janmyr.com ※ @
13:43 @corpaul: RT @grammarware I think this is wonderful, thumbs up for @Schwarzenegger! techcrunch.com (via @TechCrunch) ※ @
13:43 @slehmann: RT @andersjanmyr:Report from #oopsla day 1, anders.janmyr.com ※ @
13:53 @tsudonymn: hands off my hardware starts off the keynote prep. #oopsla ※ @
13:54 @scbs: RT @slehmann: RT @andersjanmyr:Report from #oopsla day 1, anders.janmyr.com ※ @
13:57 @tsudonymn: 84% of research funding for computer science and engineering comes from NSF. #oopsla ※ @
13:57 @scbs: #OOPSLA09 Invited Speaker#4: Jeannette Wing, oopsla.org ※ @
13:59 @tsudonymn: apparently the NSF's CDI (Cyber-Enabled Discovery and Innovation) needs some help with getting the word out about who they are. #oopsla ※ @
14:03 @dirkriehle: Jeanette Wing at #oopsla - funding research on using computer science model checking for coping with pancreatic cancer?! ※ @
14:03 @kevarh: watching #oopsla talk tweets from the keynote, infinite recursion ※ @
14:06 @woan: Heartwarming NSF knows price of commodity 1TB drive #oopsla ※ @
14:07 @dirkriehle: Jeanette Wing talking about the problem of drowning in data - high energy speaker - about to personally punch out the problem #oopsla ※ @
14:08 @ikangai: learning to build a #facebook app in ruby on rails during a tutorial at #OOPSLA ※ @
14:10 @kevarh: #oopsla lots of talk about the "cloud," CISE has two 1000+ hadoop clusters. ※ @
14:12 @dirkriehle: Need to correct J. Wing. The CMU car was the car that won the *second* Grand DARPA challenged. #Stanford won the first. #oopsla ※ @
14:14 @woan: Star Trek Data in Jeannette Wing NSF #oopsla presentation ※ @
14:18 @EelcoVisser: Preparing for second (and last) WebDSL demo at #oopsla09 which will be in Fantasia D at 10:15 #oopsla ※ @
14:22 @dirkriehle: Design Pattern Density Defined talk at #oopsla is scheduled for Thursday early afternoon slot dirkriehle.com ※ @
14:27 @woan: SW Eng for Next Internet Pamela Zave slide deck referred to in J Wing #oopsla presentation research.att.com ※ @
14:30 @ajith: Listening to Jeannette M. Wing at #OOPSLA ※ @
14:34 @dirkriehle: Wing at #oopsla - computer science and economics interacting more and more - good to get that reassurance ※ @
14:42 @woan: Jeannette Wing #oopsla week of Dec 7 National Computer Science Education Week acm.org ※ @
14:43 @woan: #oopsla Jeannette WIng twitter flash mob at noon on Dec 7 by CS departments ※ @
14:44 @saiyr: apparently we have a computer science week now #oopsla09 ※ @
14:47 @SQUIDwarrior: RT @woan: Jeannette Wing #oopsla week of Dec 7 National Computer Science Education Week acm.org - hug a Computer Scientist! ※ @
14:47 @woan: #oopsla Wing computing education and career opportunities are for everyone ※ @
14:59 @NahumG: RT @dirkriehle: Design Pattern Density Defined talk at #oopsla is scheduled for Thursday early afternoon slot dirkriehle.com ※ @
15:14 @agile_teams: passionate speech by Jeannette Wing of NSF on why we need to "get C into STEM" at #oopsla09 ※ @
15:15 @UPCRCIllinois: Report from OOPSLA '09 Workshop on Refactoring Tools ... softwareengineering.vazexqi.com ※ @
15:18 @scentart: RT@grammarwareSchwarzenegger chastises CA legislature techcrunch.com (via @TechCrunch) ※ @
15:19 @blogCACM: OOPSLA update, Ajith Ranabahu blogs abt Barbara Liskov's keynote, w/ important historical programming papers cited, cacm.acm.org ※ @
15:21 @intel_chris: RT @helpnetsecurity: Firefox 3.5.4 fixes critical security issues (net-security.org) #mozilla (remember to upgrade) ※ @
- 16:06 @grammarware: @intel_chris is it a surprise? I think every version at least since Netscape Gold has been fixing crucial security holes over and over again ※ @
15:21 @kevarh: Jeanette Wing asked how many undergrads at #oopsla less then half a dozen hands... ※ @
- 15:31 @woan: @kevarh unless in a research program I bet most CS undergrads have never heard of #oopsla ※ @
15:28 @thelliez: About to attend an Agile vs Architecture session at #oopsla ※ @
15:43 @Sythyry: #oopsla Automatically detecting design patterns in code! ※ @
15:57 @grammarware: If you think "Black Square" was first drawn by Kasimir Malevich, you're terribly mistaken. It's been known since 1617! tate.org.uk ※ @
15:59 @jwgrenning: I might get to see the launch. clouds in the way, and NASA keeps delaying. I am poised to see it from where I am sitting outside #oopsla ※ @
16:14 @intel_chris: RT @grammarware: Is it a surprise? I think every version since Netscape Gold has bn fixing crucial sec holes ovr & ovr again (no surprise) ※ @
16:15 @intel_chris: .@grammarware every non-trivial piece of SW I've ever worked on has always had bugs, some fewer ※ @
16:17 @kvarik: парни, это только мне на лепру не залогиниться? ※ @
- 16:19 @grammarware: @kvarik у меня всё летает. ※ @
16:20 @grammarware: 1st lecture on Paradigms went well, lots of students for @notquiteabba to scare away. Let's see how many will show up to my lab next Monday. ※ @
- 17:26 @ashalynd: @grammarware so, on top of other things, you enjoy making the students' life difficult by forcing them to study something ;-) ※ @
16:20 @ikangai: #OOPSLA - learning the basics of ruby #and #rails - check out the pythonchallenge.com to do some programming to solve puzzles ※ @
16:28 @yarapavan: "The Power of Abstraction"--ACM Turing Award Winner, Barbara Liskov's OOPSLA Keynote -- as noted in #CACM blog. cacm.acm.org ※ @
16:30 @yarapavan: "Taming the Clouds at OOPSLA". Ajith Ranabahu's notes from the two cloud computing workshops at OOPSLA'09. cacm.acm.org ※ @
16:32 @MachinesAreUs: At a talk about a successful SOA implementation 4 a big healthcare company, which grew by acquiring other companies #oopsla ※ @
16:34 @xamat: RT @yarapavan: "Taming the Clouds at OOPSLA". Ranabahu's notes from the two cloud computing workshops at OOPSLA'09. cacm.acm.org ※ @
16:36 @xamat: RT @yarapavan: "The Power of Abstraction"--ACM Turing Award Winner, Barbara Liskov's OOPSLA Keynote cacm.acm.org ※ @
16:38 @SQUIDwarrior: More accurately, I just watched the Ares 1-X launch at #oopsla! No boom, so good sign. :-D ※ @
16:45 @MachinesAreUs: A challenge 4 SOA implementation: teaching it to old fashioned IT staff (RPG, COBOL, etc). People matters. #oopsla ※ @
16:47 @tsudonymn: hmmm are those butterflies I feel in the pit of my stomach... must be about time for my tutorial presentation:) #oopsla ※ @
16:59 @jwgrenning: Why is there music and dancing at #oopsla when the conference is 99% guys? ※ @
- 17:40 @MachinesAreUs: @jwgrenning Do you really want to know? information acquisition is a physically irreversible process (broken link) #oopsla ※ @
  - 17:47 @jwgrenning: @MachinesAreUs Huh? Does that relate to something I tweeted? #oopsla ※ @
- 18:11 @HackerChick: @jwgrenning maybe the better question is why is #oopsla 99% guys? don't you all like us? ;-) ※ @
  - 18:12 @jwgrenning: @HackerChick Its a self-selected group. Must be the other way around. #oopsla ※ @
17:25 @MachinesAreUs: "Agile Anthropology and Alexander's Architecture: An Essay in Three Voices". I won't miss this one oopsla.org #oopsla ※ @
17:30 @pgoodwin: Zooming around in the air at 700 miles an hour & surfin' the web. This "being human" gig rocks! ※ @
- 17:33 @vydra: @pgoodwin How was OOPSLA? I am already jealous :) ※ @
17:44 @pgoodwin: Had to leave #oopsla early :-( The tweet outflow is mighty thin. More please? ※ @
- 17:48 @jwgrenning: @pgoodwin Sorry we did not bump into each other at #oopsla ※ @
17:58 @woan: #oopsla has the fewest active users of web 2.0 of any conference I have been to in a while... ※ @
17:59 @woan: a few years ago I seem to recall #oopsla had a wiki and aggregated blog... didn't seem to carryover. ※ @
18:00 @woan: still the only one feeding the #OOPSLA flickr stream :-( flickr.com Enjoy! ※ @
18:02 @scbs: RT @woan: still the only one feeding the #OOPSLA flickr stream :-( flickr.com Enjoy! ※ @
18:03 @scbs: RT @aslamkhn: @niclasnilsson Oh yes, demographics where presented. Brazil had enough representation to make the pie chart... #oopsla ※ @
18:23 @tsudonymn: On with the show! #oopsla ※ @
18:33 @pauloborba: Modularity analysis of use case implementations at ACoM/OOPSLA 2009 pauloborba.posterous.com ※ @
18:34 @scbs: #OOPSLA Invited Speaker#5: Scrub and Spin: Stealth Use of Formal Methods in Software Development, Gerard Holzmann, oopsla.org ※ @
18:44 @bigballofmud: Witnessed the AresI-X launch from Port Canaveral. There is something special about seeing it live. Vivid demo of the speed of sound #oopsla ※ @
18:55 @peterfriese: boarding CO293 MCO EWR. Enjoyed #oopsla09 very much. ※ @
18:59 @mhevery: Done with my demos. Will be hanging out by the OOPSLA registration if anyone wants to chat about anything. Will post my slides soon. ※ @
19:05 @henriquerebelo: RT: @scbs: #OOPSLA09 Invited Speaker#4: Jeannette Wing, oopsla.org ※ @
19:06 @henriquerebelo: RT: @pauloborba: Modularity analysis of use case implementations at ACoM/OOPSLA 2009 pauloborba.posterous.com ※ @
19:06 @ajith: Listening to Gerald Holzmann (JPL) at #oopsla ※ @
19:11 @maximilien: completed my #oopsla #tutorial 25: oopsla.org building viral #facebook apps. Meeting participants in #BoF @ 5:30pm to polish app ※ @
19:23 @CACMmag: OOPSLA update: coverage of Barbara Liskov's keynote address: cacm.acm.org RT @blogCACM ※ @
19:24 @woan: #oopsla Gerard Holzmann Power of 10 spinroot.com ※ @
19:31 @fernandocastor: RT @scbs See what is happening at #oopsla in real-time at twitter.com ※ @
19:38 @EelcoVisser: Panel on "architecture in an agile world" has lots of house building process metaphors and little software architecture #oopsla09 ※ @
19:40 @bigballofmud: Agile / Architecture: is pummeling a painting yourself into the corner analogy to death. #oopsla ※ @
19:42 @EelcoVisser: WebDSL demonstration went well with good questions from the audience (missed it? ask me for a personal demo) #oopsla09 ※ @
19:44 @bigballofmud: "Design Pervades the Lifecycle" -- Me laputan.org, at a workshop with Agile/Architecture participant Randy Miller at #oopsla 95 ※ @
19:46 @bigballofmud: In hindsight, I almost found myself wishing the Turing Lecture were more like a Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremony #oopsla ※ @
19:53 @bigballofmud: #oopsla Morning keynote vs. Ares I-X Launch: both carried a risk of disappointment, even spectacular failure vs. unexpected delight. ※ @
19:54 @bigballofmud: Bill Opdyke: Architecture is Influence. Those who are good at are willing to let others take the glory for shared ideas. #oopsla ※ @
19:58 @bigballofmud: When we extol the benefits of architecture emerging in agile, we are really saying developers are better architects than Architects. #oopsla ※ @
- 20:00 @jwgrenning: @bigballofmud Not necessarily, but the code has a say in architecture and developers work in code. Devs bring the voice of the code #oopsla ※ @
20:20 @diego_tc: The second round of Student Research Competition has just finished. The awards will be tomorrow. #OOPSLA ※ @
20:24 @jwgrenning: just got my pre-arrival checkin for 10/25 stay at Disney for #oopsla #fail ※ @
- 21:03 @SQUIDwarrior: @jwgrenning ha! I just got one of those too. Perhaps some #oopsla folks should offer their services to Disney's IT department. ※ @
  - 21:10 @jwgrenning: @SQUIDwarrior Exactly! Disney reservations might need some help from #oopsla gurus ※ @
20:30 @MachinesAreUs: Afternoon Onward! session "Essays 1" left so much food 4 thought. Jenn Quillien is quite a personality. She really talks to you. #oopsla ※ @
20:30 @wilfredspringer: 30 minutes to go before I'm up presenting Bit Syntax for Java at #oopsla ※ @
20:35 @scbs: #OOPSLA Panel: Cloud Computing beyond Objects, oopsla.org ※ @
20:47 @bigballofmud: So, @jwgrenning To paraphrase Walenda: The Code is Life, Everything Else is Just Standing Around #oopsla ※ @
20:48 @maximilien: Participating as panelist in #oopsla panel on cloud computing titled: Cloud Computing beyond Objects moderated by Steve Fraser of #Cisco ※ @
20:49 @thelliez: Cloud computing at #oopsla ※ @
20:53 @bigballofmud: Which is to say, those closest to the action are in the best position to be stewards of the systems cultivation and evolution. #oopsla ※ @
20:56 @bigballofmud: At the cloud panel, @maximilien characterizes himself as having been "barely born" during the '70s. #oopsla ※ @
21:00 @bigballofmud: This medium, @jwgrenning seems to encourage a degree of dialectical epigramaticism. #oopsla ※ @
21:03 @bigballofmud: Seeing the Ares I-X from Port Canaveral was like being in the last row at a Stones concert. Mick's tiny, sound's late, but u r THERE #oopsla ※ @
21:13 @thelliez: "I want a drink, you have a lake" Scott Jordan at #oopsla and cloud computing ※ @
21:16 @bigballofmud: Without 3G realtime access to the NASA feeds, watching the Ares I-X live would have been a different experience #oopsla I luv 21st century ※ @
21:19 @jiplen: At #oopsla, watching a flapjax demo. Pretty cool stuff. ※ @
21:20 @bigballofmud: FWIW, the XX/XY ratio at #oopsla @HackerChick is not quite as dire as 99%. I think the actual # is 86.2%. Point taken though. ※ @
21:22 @jwgrenning: clouds in Booch diagrams indicated that there was a higher, more vague, level of abstration #oopsla ※ @
21:29 @michaelkeeling: Maybe it was a bonehead comment but the "Architecture in an Agile World" panel described "good design", not "agile architecture." #oopsla ※ @
21:36 @bigballofmud: Bob Marcus: The early Amazon and Google codebases were the World's Best Hacks... #oopsla ※ @
21:40 @EelcoVisser: Tony Clark promotes research agenda for language factories #oopsla09 #onward ※ @
21:42 @thelliez: If an other Cloud customer has an upatched VM, outch! I do not want to be on te same hardware! #oopsla ※ @
21:47 @lmeyerov: hello oopsla! ※ @
21:49 @ExploreMqt: RT @refactoringdr: At least medicinal MySql is legal in California #oopsla ※ @
21:49 @JBezivin: RT @EelcoVisser Tony Clark promotes research agenda for language factories #oopsla09 #onward ※ @
21:53 @bigballofmud: Joe Yoder diplomatically raises the possibility that there is a lot of hype surrounding Cloud computing and less new than some think #oopsla ※ @
21:56 @bigballofmud: Bob Marcus: SOA was 90% hype. Cloud delivers: virtualization, utility computing, things that work. #oopsla ※ @
21:56 @JBezivin: RT @EelcoVisser R.Fuhrer gave overview of IMP Eclipse framework for custom IDE creation eclipse.org #oopsla09 #ESE #OOPSLA +++ ※ @
21:57 @thelliez: Nice plug for the OODMS gemstone during the Cloud computing panel #oopsla #gs64 James Foster has a tutorial Thursday about it ※ @
21:59 @JBezivin: RT @bigballofmud Bob Marcus: "SOA was 90% hype, ... Cloud delivers things that work".... #oopsla #ESE #OOPSLA09 ※ @
22:43 @mtov: The Power of Abstraction: classical papers cited by Liskov in her #oopsla09 keynote talk. cacm.acm.org. ※ @
22:50 @tsudonymn: Success! Tutorial complete and well received. Thanks to all! #oopsla ※ @
22:52 @ikangai: #OOPSLA - approaching the finish line of the #ruby #facebook app ※ @
22:52 @eeide: is bringing a surprisingly large to-do list home from OOPSLA. There are quite a few things that I need to try/find/read when I get home. ※ @
23:28 @henriquerebelo: RT: @mtov: The Power of Abstraction: classical papers cited by Liskov in her #oopsla09 keynote talk. cacm.acm.org. ※ @
23:32 @woan: afternoon pictures to the #oopsla flickr group flickr.com enjoy! ※ @
23:49 @philip_schwarz: RT @bigballofmud: So, @jwgrenning To paraphrase Walenda: The Code is Life, Everything Else is Just Standing Around #oopsla ※ @
23:52 @dhenrichs: Nice plug for the OODMS gemstone during the Cloud computing panel #oopsla #gs64 James Foster has a tutorial Thursday about it(via @thelliez) ※ @
23:55 @KSU_CSDept: This year's A. M. Turing Award lecture was given yesterday at OOPSLA facebook.com ※ @

29 Oct, 0:44 @tsudonymn: #oopsla it's time to step up and join the twitterstream. If you are here and see this. Let's hear some chatter. ※ @
0:57 @maximilien: Wine-ing down a bit at the #oopsla party after a really non-stop hectic day: tutorial, demo, and panel. Thanks to @ajith for helping ※ @
1:27 @tsudonymn: You nearly crashed the financial system as we know it; where you gonna go. Disney! #oopsla ※ @
1:29 @wwake: Brian @marick 's OOPSLA position paper: "Agile Methods, the Emersonian Worldview, and the Dance of Agency" visibleworkings.com #agile ※ @
2:02 @adolfont: RT @scbs Scrub and Spin: Stealth Use of Formal Methods in Software Development, Gerard Holzmann, oopsla.org #OOPSLA ※ @
2:46 @hjyang27: Happy 15th B-day Design Patterns! It was 15 yrs ago today D-Patterns from the GoF debuted at OOPSLA 1994. See it all at informit.com ※ @
2:48 @eijiadachi: RT @hjyang27: Happy 15th B-day Design Patterns! It was 15 yrs ago 2day D-Patterns from the GoF debuted at OOPSLA 1994. informit.com ※ @
3:04 @jwgrenning: Oh! that is such a cute little black snake. Except ts in our magic kingdon hotel room at #oopsla ※ @
3:07 @dastels: Dear people carrying windows laptops around: a) get a laptop bag, b) damn your computers are ugly. ※ @
- 6:37 @pgoodwin: @dastels Excuse me, but MY ugly laptop runs Linux, and it's beautiful on the inside. My new #OOPSLA give-away bag can hold all 17" of it too ※ @
3:36 @michaelkeeling: My favorite #oopsla quote of the week: "If it was lasagna before, it'll be spaghetti afterward!" ※ @
3:41 @michaelkeeling: RT @bigballofmud "Agile / Architecture Panel: Shantytowns are agile." #oopsla ※ @
4:03 @curtclifton: Ready to crash after a long day of OOPSLA, but more work to do. Making a pot of tea in my room. ※ @
8:57 @PaulKlint: Finally completed revision of our Rascal paper at #GTTSE: homepages.cwi.nl ※ @
10:38 @chepalova: А кто что собирается делать в субботу? Это же Хэллоин получается, какие где вечеринки интересные проходить будут? ※ @
- 30 Oct, 10:31 @grammarware: @chepalova уж на что у нас городок мелкий, мы и то минимум в три места интересные собираемся. А уж в ДС-то, небось, только разорваться можно ※ @
12:50 @thelliez: Last day @ #oopsla The speaker this morning is Robert Johnson from Facebook. ※ @
12:53 @aslamkhn: Rise and shine S.Africa, it's 7.50am at #oopsla and time to listen to Robert Johnson, Engineering Director at facebook. ※ @
13:33 @grammarware: @FrankVanHarmele groeten van een ex-collega! En gefeliciteerd nog met de eerste plek voor de VU Informatica op de lijst van Elsevier, leuk! ※ @
13:44 @jwgrenning: warmup to final keynote: end of an era for #oopsla. oopsla is about technology. it's international. it's had impact; new ideas. ※ @
13:45 @jwgrenning: #oopsla has a purpose, not a mission. A mission has an end. A purpose does not. ※ @
13:47 @msuarz: #OOPSLA becoming #SPLASH ※ @
13:49 @jwgrenning: to repeat something I saw earlier s/OOPSLA/SPLASH/ ※ @
13:53 @jwgrenning: slow down to get it right, will take too long to figure out that you have it wrong #oopsla ※ @
13:54 @jorgevallejos: In Facebook there are 1,100,000 users per engineer! #oopsla ※ @
13:55 @jwgrenning: Small group of smart people build facebook. run a lot of experiments. little things make a big difference.try it see if they like it.#oopsla ※ @
13:55 @ikangai: #OOPSLA - #facebook keynote: scalability... 300 mil users that can create apps and data ※ @
13:55 @jwgrenning: think if an idea last night, code it in the morning and deploy that day #oopsla ※ @
13:56 @dirkriehle: Robert Johnson of Facebook at #oopsla - Goal of feature development is feature release time in less than a week ※ @
13:56 @jwgrenning: Principle: don't block developers; Give them control; Tune for speed #oopsla ※ @
13:58 @jwgrenning: Principle: do less work; (let the computer do the work) Build tools; use open source #oopsla ※ @
13:59 @tsudonymn: Robert Johnson, Director, Engineering, Facebook: Never block developers, give them control, do less work. #oopsla ※ @
13:59 @maximilien: Bobbie Johnson #Facebook last keynote #oopsla Scaling Fast principles: never block developers, give them control, & tune process for speed ※ @
14:00 @jwgrenning: Data for generating pages is distributed all over the world. Advice: scale horizontally. #oopsla ※ @
14:03 @jwgrenning: most fb logic is in php. easy to change. problem code base becomes too big to understand. moving some logic to thrift. #oopsla ※ @
14:04 @woan: #oopsla facebook thrift cross-language/platform services ※ @
14:05 @woan: #oopsla incubator.apache.org ※ @
14:05 @tsudonymn: for facebook scale they find you have to think about how to go horizontal with a feature from the start. #oopsla ※ @
14:07 @jwgrenning: fb has a shared code base. Responsibility silos make people have jobs that are to slow things down. #oopsla ※ @
14:07 @dirkriehle: Johnson of Facebbook at OOPSLA - FB engineers control the whole code/test/deploy cycle, with some operations guard rails ※ @
14:08 @scbs: scbs A Brazilian student (UFCG) gets the 1st prize in the #oopsla student research competition, in the undergraduate student category. ※ @
14:08 @jwgrenning: developers test their own code. Engineering pairs with ops to push a release into production #oopsla ※ @
14:08 @JBezivin: scbs RT @scbs #oopsla10: #OOPSLA09 is changing. #OOPSLA is becoming #SPLASH. splashcon.org ※ @
14:09 @maximilien: Bobbie Johnson: Scale features horizontally from start. You will invariably need to so at #Facebook within about six months #oopsla ※ @
14:09 @jwgrenning: hand off to someone to test your code, means handing off 75% of development #oopsla ※ @
- 14:14 @mccloo: RT @jwgrenning hand off to someone to test your code, means handing off 75% of development #oopsla ※ @
14:09 @grammarware: Been told I look like I'm 20 and talk like I'm 50. Is that good, bad or simply wrong given the fact that I'm neither? ※ @
- 14:12 @ashalynd: @grammarware it says more about the person who told it to you, than about yourself :) ※ @
  - 15:10 @grammarware: @ashalynd as long as she's happy with both aspects… ;) ※ @
    - 15:11 @ashalynd: @grammarware oh, so it was a positive statement! I wasn't sure about it :) ※ @
      - 16:48 @grammarware: @ashalynd I'm still not sure if I consider it as a positive statement myself ;) Hence the question! ※ @
- 14:13 @corpaul: @grammarware that simply tells that person has lousy age-guessing skills ※ @
14:10 @jwgrenning: site can't go down. longest outage 2hr a couple years ago. how" make frequent small changes. don't batch things up #oopsla ※ @
14:11 @EelcoVisser: Doop improves performance of points-to analysis with an order of magnitude based on declarative specification doop.program-analysis.org #oopsla09 ※ @
14:11 @jwgrenning: most time spent is figuring out what is broken, conclusion just change one thing | sounds rather TDD-ish #oopsla ※ @
14:11 @tsudonymn: In the tune processes for speed catagory: frequent small changes. #oopsla ※ @
14:12 @EelcoVisser: Facebook: all development in trunk; weekly release of trunk; daily release of minor changes #oopsla09 ※ @
14:12 @jwgrenning: svn, all dev is done on trunk; weekly release of trunk; daily small changes #oopsla ※ @
14:13 @grammarware: Wow! After 20+ years, OOPSLA gets renamed to SPLASH (Systems, Programming, Languages and Applications: Software for Humanity) -via #oopsla09 ※ @
14:13 @EelcoVisser: Facebook: deploy = svn up #oopsla09 ※ @
14:14 @tsudonymn: all dev done on trunk @ facebook folks so what again were all those excuses you had for requiring branching again? #oopsla ※ @
14:15 @jfelipe: WikiSym and OOPSLA are almost over. Heading home again. Many good ideas on my backpack, and many hours without sleeping, as well... ※ @
14:26 @lsinger: RT @grammarware: Wow! After 20+ yrs, OOPSLA gets renamed to SPLASH (Systems, Programming, Languages and Applications: Software for Humanity) ※ @
14:41 @eeide: RT @EelcoVisser Facebook: all development in trunk; weekly release of trunk; daily release of minor changes #oopsla09 ※ @
14:45 @EelcoVisser: RT @PaulKlint: Finally completed revision of our Rascal paper at #GTTSE: homepages.cwi.nl ※ @
15:10 @elsvene: RT @grammarware: I think this is wonderful, thumbs up for @Schwarzenegger! techcrunch.com (via @TechCrunch) ※ @
15:48 @EelcoVisser: Baniassad is talking about programs as language; learning to speak the language that is used in particular programs #oopsla09 #onward ※ @
15:54 @leopoldomt: RT @scbs: VIDEO da premiação de @diego_tc (UFCG) no #OOPSLA09 student research competition, categoria aluno graduação youtube.com ※ @
16:03 @EelcoVisser: "Program Language" provides a new paradigm for program understanding #oopsla09 ※ @
16:06 @EelcoVisser: What is the relation between "Program Language" and "Domain-Driven Design"? #oopsla09 ※ @
16:24 @JBezivin: RT @EelcoVisser What is the relation between "Program Language" and "Domain-Driven Design"? #oopsla09 <= good question ※ @
16:47 @grammarware: Just registered at @Plaxo, and it's actually much better than I expected. Look me up if you use it! I also made a group: plaxo.com ※ @
17:04 @agile_teams: two good cloud computing practitioner reports at #oopsla09 by @maximilien and @jasonc411 ※ @
19:18 @EelcoVisser: "Program Language" = the language of a single program, i.e. not programming/domain-specific language #oopsla09 ※ @
- 30 Oct, 2:27 @grammarware: @EelcoVisser now we finally have a proper term for one-shot DSLs/dialects! ※ @
20:17 @berniezang: Some pictures from #oopsla09 Disney World and #plateau09. flickr.com ※ @
20:27 @jasonc411: RT @agile_teams: two good cloud computing practitioner reports at #oopsla09 by @maximilien and @jasonc411 -- thanks for attending! (jc) ※ @
20:51 @tiagomlalves: Why I can only be productive from 2pm to 9pm? Does that means that I shouldn't bother waking up in the morning anyway? ※ @
- 30 Oct, 13:16 @grammarware: @tiagomlalves sometimes I find myself being most productive from 2am to 9am, that's even worse, believe me. In your case, warmup at 10am-2pm ※ @
21:14 @EelcoVisser: Talk about error recovery for SGLR coming up in 15 minutes as last talk of #oopsla09 ※ @
- 30 Oct, 2:22 @grammarware: @EelcoVisser we were really excited to hear @tvdstorm mentioning this project of yours. Haven't yet read "Providing…", but going to soon! ※ @
21:14 @agile_teams: Aldrich proposes PLAID - can typestates replace classes? see cs.cmu.edu #oopsla09 ※ @

30 Oct, 10:49 @maoos: О! Вот и мне списки в твиттере подключили! Кстати, кто как ими пользуется? ※ @
- 10:24 @grammarware: @maoos я лично начал пользоваться как колонками в твитдеке. Для меня актуально, макбукпро сломался, пока не вернут с ремонта, я линуксоед... ※ @

29 Oct, 22:40 @grammarware: No such thing as perfection in this world! In one of the very last passes noticed a typo on the first line of the first page of the paper. ※ @

30 Oct, 2:26 @grammarware: @notquiteabba twitpic.com - congratz! The photo really captured the smile of utter satisfaction. ※ @
4:41 @grammarware: Have a lot of plans for tomorrow (i.e. Friday), better not let the infamous "post-deadline syndrome" take over me! ※ @
10:50 @chepalova: Тем, кто идет, я настойчиво советую остаться в сознании до 4 утра и послушать группу Собаки.ру, которая будет в это время выступать ※ @
- 10:26 @grammarware: @chepalova вечная беда: лучших ставят последними, и народ к тому моменту уже ничего не воспринимает. Я так на Fabulous Thunderbirds ездил. ※ @
  - 10:49 @chepalova: @grammarware а кто до 4 вообще играет, не знаешь? Не на тынц-тынц сцене, естественно :) ※ @
    - 10:44 @grammarware: @chepalova на самом лепродансе? Понятия не имею, я ж не дефолтситер ни разу. ※ @
10:37 @grammarware: Хорошее название для прокачивающихся твиттер-ботов. RT @straveller: RT @XooMMooX Фолловимитатор )) ※ @
10:46 @grammarware: Can ssh do audio forwarding the same way it can do video forwarding (by setting DISPLAY and/or -X/-Y option)? I.e., log in remotely to skype ※ @
- 12:44 @dizzy57: @grammarware yup, it's as simple as "esd -public -tcp -port PORT" on host and "ssh -L (etc) ; esddsp -s localhost:SSHPORT skype &" on client ※ @
  - 12:58 @grammarware: @dizzy57 thanks a lot, I'll try that! ※ @
11:27 @robertgaal: At the notary, where I just signed the final contracts. A house owner I am! Now where's my cigar?! ※ @
- 13:02 @grammarware: @robertgaal wow, congratulations! What kind of house is it and in what kind of environment? ※ @
13:00 @grammarware: RT @ashalynd: Trending topic - это топик, о котором много трындят. #languagemix ※ @
13:04 @grammarware: Whoever's on @Plaxo and interested in grammarware/modelware/language engineering, join plaxo.com ※ @
13:08 @grammarware: RT @softmodeling: I hope "writing emails" counts as a research activity. Otherwise I'll be fired soon. ※ @
13:12 @lsinger: RT @grammarware: RT @softmodeling: I hope "writing emails" counts as a research activity. Otherwise I'll be fired soon. ※ @
17:40 @grammarware: Surprising: gedit is better in dealing with Prolog syntax highlighting than both Emacs and vim. ※ @

31 Oct, 0:52 @institute4cs: RT @Manfred Jackel @grammarware I got repsonse fron a younger @notqieabb-fan that even more tutorial-like would help t increase SLE-foll ... ※ @
0:52 @institute4cs: RT @Vadim Zaytsev Got in trouble for running Mozilla once on a uni server, it created a urlclassifier3.sqlite file that quickly went way ... ※ @
13:42 @dgroenewegen: Returned to my magical home, after a magical journey on a magical airplane. #oopsla09 ※ @

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